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There isn’t any. Since it was announced it was happening nothing more has been said
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There is a bit of information in the latest committee meeting minutes from the combined authority
The appendixes are excluded but the key points that would be of interest here, is that the ‘lotting strategy’ I.E what routes will be included in which lots is being finalised
Also the 50 year old ‘Metro’ brand is going to be phased out with a new brand to be revealed this Spring
Has anyone got any ideas what snappy ‘Bee Network’ style name they might come up with?
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There is a bit of information in the latest committee meeting minutes from the combined authority
The appendixes are excluded but the key points that would be of interest here, is that the ‘lotting strategy’ I.E what routes will be included in which lots is being finalised
Also the 50 year old ‘Metro’ brand is going to be phased out with a new brand to be revealed this Spring
Has anyone got any ideas what snappy ‘Bee Network’ style name they might come up with?
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According to the meeting agenda, the new brand is going to be revealed and approved on Thursday in the meeting of the Combined Authority
See section 3.22 onwards here https://westyorkshire.moderngov.co.uk/documents/s40502/Item 6 - Bus Franchising.pdf
I would fully expect the mayor to reveal it then publically shortly afterwards
Let’s hope they don’t come up with something clunky or silly
See section 3.22 onwards here https://westyorkshire.moderngov.co.uk/documents/s40502/Item 6 - Bus Franchising.pdf
I would fully expect the mayor to reveal it then publically shortly afterwards
Let’s hope they don’t come up with something clunky or silly
mattb7tl
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They have a tender out to source hundreds of second hand vehicles and they are due to reveal the new transport brand in the next couple of days. It should be rapidly picking up from this point onwards so this thread is definitely a great idea.
Why thank you! Also the West Yorkshire Transport Forum has a thread going, although it goes a little off topic sometimes
You are responding to a question that was originally posted in January. There wasn’t much going on then, but there probably will be now
mattb7tl
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Didn't even realise but here is the timeline for 2025.
New Transport Brand identity unveiled end Q1 Market engagement to begin with coach and bus operators in Q2 First procurement launched by end Q3, with the first procurement agreed by end Q4 Depot acquisition completed by end Q4
New Transport Brand identity unveiled end Q1 Market engagement to begin with coach and bus operators in Q2 First procurement launched by end Q3, with the first procurement agreed by end Q4 Depot acquisition completed by end Q4
there is no tender for 100s of second hand vehicles nor will there be - west yorks are following the Manchester model where buses will be bought directly from the current operators. valuations on fleets will start shortly.
mattb7tl
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Except there is
WYCA Bus Franchising - Procurement of Second Hand Vehicles - Find a Tender
www.find-tender.service.gov.uk
Cesarcollie
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Except there is
WYCA Bus Franchising - Procurement of Second Hand Vehicles - Find a Tender
One can’t help thinking they might struggle to find 45, never mind 450!
JasonL
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Maybe they're changing it as Merseytravel in Merseyside is going to be under the Metro brand as to not cause any confusion between Merseyside Metro and West Yorkshire Metro? That's what I'm assuming
But then you have have the Tyne and Wear Metro trains aswell
The tender is a procedural thing - as it says ‘WYCA is considering procuring up to 450 second-hand buses on behalf of franchise operators and would like expressions of interest from parties.’
So in reality, those 450 will come from existing operators and be procured by WYCA for the franchising. But for public contracts like this, you need to at least give opportunity to all!
So in reality, those 450 will come from existing operators and be procured by WYCA for the franchising. But for public contracts like this, you need to at least give opportunity to all!
Cesarcollie
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Maybe. But of course existing operators are under no obligation to sell their buses, and may choose if they don’t win contracts to cascade fleet elsewhere……especially newer vehicles. So this plan is also needed as a back-up.
If First were to lose work, the Streetdecks would be ideal for more repowers too, as well as normal cascades.
61653 HTAFC
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Perhaps the hope is that the tram/light-rail will actually happen and that can take the Metro name.
The pessimist in me expects a horrible gimmicky name that hasn't been thought through. Something that hangs on the coat-tails of Greater Manchester's "Bee Network" without having the same kudos. White Rose Network anyone? Or something contrived that wouldn't look out of place in an Enterprise Allowance Scheme workshop, like "We're Your Network". The word "network" seems to be a the "go-to" answer at the moment.
I'm glad to see the end of the anonymous "M" branding though. Fingers crossed that the old "WY Rose" logo is revived, though perhaps with a bit of an update.
Bletchleyite
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It's interesting that the West Midlands has gone more traditional with the new and quite professional looking logo including the "WM" and the diamonds. Maybe WY will too.
It's a shame Merseyside is going the other way, the modified M with the coloured orbits looks tacky in the extreme.
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Although quite nice that they have recently started using it as Metro. not METRO like the old WY rose logo had it.
Steve440
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All will be revealed on Monday!
61653 HTAFC
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To be honest I don't think the branding has ever been particularly consistent when it comes to capitalisation. The 141s from new in their Verona green & buttermilk livery had "Metrotrain" branding (just the initial M in upper-case) but when the red livery and "M" came in the branding was all capitalised (and with an added hyphen "METRO-TRAIN" which looked out of place to me)- as displayed on the Keighley & Worth Valley's preserved 144.
The old logo still survives in a few places, there's a couple on road signs in Dewsbury.
Trainman40083
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Maybe it will be something innovative, with local meaning. Yorkshire Rider has a ring to I, but I think I had been used before. 
Pyewipecarshed
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WYzz? 
GatwickDepress
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Will be interesting to see what name they pick. Metro is a tad generic and doesn't really feel like it has much of a distinct identity these days. Beyond the app and the red pimple on bus stops, I don't think most people know what it really does.
You've missed your calling as a brand realignment consultant! Could easily charge seven figures for that!WYzz?
AWWisher
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The impression you get when you try to contact them: Everyone's asleep.WYzz?
mattb7tl
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Owl Network (or something similar), Rhubarb, or White Rose. I want a golden star if I guessed correctly!
Trainman40083
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Buses will probably be yellow, like Liverpool, Warrington, Manchester area.
JasonL
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It will be likely to be green like a lot of buses in Leeds
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I'm guessing the bus stops in West Yorkshire will become green?
Tetchytyke
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Green and cream, just like the old days. I like it.
Weaver Network is a rubbish name though.
Weaver Network is a rubbish name though.