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West Mids nTrain vs Season Ticket

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Sheepy1209

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My daughter is considering a University course in Birmingham, near to Five Ways station; this will involve a daily commute by train from Hinckley (Leics).

Now - I've looked at travel options and I think I've worked it out - but it doesn't make much sense to me!

As far as I can see, an 'Out of County nTrain' from Hinckley is £151.70 a month (Direct Debit), and gives unlimited anytime rail travel within the West Midlands network and also covers the line from Hinckley to the boundary.

But a one-month Season seems to be £233.60, allowing unlimited train travel to and from Five Ways (and points in between) ONLY.

[EDIT to add:] Is it really the case that a ticket that offers less can cost over 50% more?

Is this just a PTE quirk? Am I missing something?
Does the nTrain allow break of journey on the out-of-county section? (e.g. she might want to get a train for the 6-minute journey to Nuneaton).

I'm comparing monthlies to make it like-for-like; being a student she might only want a term-time ticket, but that doesn't save much (there's a student ticket but it includes buses and doesn't seem to cover Hinckley).


The nTrain price is much less than she expected but are there any other tips - e.g. a park and ride at the west mids boundary? She has a small motorbike so that might be an option - though it's more likely she'll get rid of it and use the train as it's so convenient for her - she can walk to the local station.


Many thanks!
 
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I found details of the ticket here:

http://tickets.networkwestmidlands....cketID=339&TicketOptionID=68640&resultsPage=0

T&Cs:

http://tickets.networkwestmidlands.co.uk/CT_TicketTerms.aspx?termid=1

" Travel on Train Companies' services is subject to the National Rail Conditions of Carriage"

NRCoC states you may break your journey unless it is advertised that you cannot.

I can see nothing to suggest that break of journey is not permitted on this ticket.

However I am not local to the area, so I'd wait for someone who is more familiar with these tickets to respond, I am sure someone who is familiar with them will be along shortly.
 

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Also, can someone local comment on whether such a ticket can be purchased from Hicnkley or whether Sheepy1209's daughter would have to go to a station within the West Midlands PTE area?
 

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Also, can someone local comment on whether such a ticket can be purchased from Hicnkley or whether Sheepy1209's daughter would have to go to a station within the West Midlands PTE area?
Neither. This is a Direct Debit only ticket, so as per the link yorkie posted, has to be applied for online, or by post.

You can buy for £167.90 a non-Direct Debit ticket with the same validity, this can be bought online, at the NWM shop on New Street station, or any staffed station in the NWM area.
 

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As far as I can see, an 'Out of County nTrain' from Hinckley is £151.70 a month (Direct Debit), and gives unlimited anytime rail travel within the West Midlands network and also covers the line from Hinckley to the boundary.

But a one-month Season seems to be £233.60, allowing unlimited train travel to and from Five Ways (and points in between) ONLY.

[EDIT to add:] Is it really the case that a ticket that offers less can cost over 50% more?

Is this just a PTE quirk? Am I missing something?

A PTE ticket is often cheaper because it's funded subsidised, in this case, by Centro.
 
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Go for the out of county nTrain ticket, since it gives validity in all zones within the West Midlands, it's much better value than a point-to-point season ticket.

I believe it's valid for break of journey, just like a season ticket, so you can start a journey at Nuneaton, Coleshill Parkway, Water Orton etc, and can travel via Nuneaton to Bedworth or Coventry also. You could argue that since Rugeley Trent Valley is in Zone 5, it's valid to Atherstone, Polesworth, Tamworth and Lichfield too.

With the Direct Debit scheme you have to commit to a minimum 3 months, so you can stop it in June/July if necessary.
 
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