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Liam L

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Are Swift cards similar to Oyster?
The Swift go cards are. The normal swift cards are direct debit ones where you pay a monthly direct debit and you get access to mode (or modes) of transport you pay for.
 

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It will integrate together. Swift go cards currently work on Buses and Trams and will eventually work on the trains too
I am talking specifically about the Midland Metro, the PVALs unless these things have dramatically changed in the past few weeks the PVALs haven't been installed on the Metro.

National Rail I have seen the S&B PVALs being installed now
 

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The Swift go cards are. The normal swift cards are direct debit ones where you pay a monthly direct debit and you get access to mode (or modes) of transport you pay for.
It's all stupidly confusing. Just give us contactless card ticket gates and tap-on/off terminals couple with daily caps like any sensible modern city offers.
 

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Does seem like they are gearing up for pay before board (no date confirmed).
From the West Midlands Metro website it appears that they are currently transitioning to pay before boarding, which is planned to be fully in place by late September.
A lot of new staff being trained and the old ones who didn’t want to move over from ‘conductor’ to ‘revenue protection’ (not sure of the difference really) have now gone.
I think basically a conductor stays on the same tram for its entire journey whereas revenue protection staff move around between trams (and tram stops). It remains to be seen whether they do away with conductors as soon as pay before boarding has been fully implemented, though.
 

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The Swift go cards are. The normal swift cards are direct debit ones where you pay a monthly direct debit and you get access to mode (or modes) of transport you pay for.
Thank you
It's all stupidly confusing. Just give us contactless card ticket gates and tap-on/off terminals couple with daily caps like any sensible modern city offers.
Indeed. That would make multimodal transport incredibly easy
 

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It's all stupidly confusing. Just give us contactless card ticket gates and tap-on/off terminals couple with daily caps like any sensible modern city offers.
We always years behind everyone else. It's unbelievable that a region our size still hasn't had this.
 

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From the West Midlands Metro website it appears that they are currently transitioning to pay before boarding, which is planned to be fully in place by late September.

I think basically a conductor stays on the same tram for its entire journey whereas revenue protection staff move around between trams (and tram stops). It remains to be seen whether they do away with conductors as soon as pay before boarding has been fully implemented, though.
All the new staff I’ve encountered are for now staying on the same tram. Although have noticed a slight increase of trams with nobody on (used to be extremely rare) now I’d say it’s one in every 6 or 7).

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It's all stupidly confusing. Just give us contactless card ticket gates and tap-on/off terminals couple with daily caps like any sensible modern city offers.
Most (if not all) midland metro stations couldn’t have ticket gates.
 

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They’re pressing ahead with the buy before you board changes.

Spoke to a conductor yesterday who told me by September 4th no more conductors riding on the tram and will be ‘revenue inspectors’ who will board the trams at given times but not stay onboard (hope this doesn’t delay, surely they’ll ride along till the next stop at least) then just a week later you will have to have a ticket before boarding or be fined, and that hes redundant as of 4th October.

No real grace period and that hadn’t been advertised anywhere until today ehen I noticed a poster up at one stop.
 

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