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West Midlands Class 323 - the final countdown

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Liam L

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Looking grim for XC line commuters (me).
I believe 2 out of 13 diagrams will now be 3 cars :rolleyes:

Looks grim for anyone who has to catch those.

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Post on Hunslet the bears twitter is saying 212 is moving to northern tomorrow.
Any idea if 220 is going too?

It's not allocated today again

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No sign on RTT yet. Northern still dont seem to be using previous transfer 323208 yet.
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It's going to Wolverton first
 
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I believe 2 out of 13 diagrams will now be 3 cars :rolleyes:

Looks grim for anyone who has to catch those.

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Any idea if 220 is going too?

It's not allocated today again

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It's going to Wolverton first
Thought they weren't getting painted until northern had received all 17.
 

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323212 & 323220 will be going to Wolverton tomorrow and Saturday (whichever way round) for handback repairs (no room at Soho) prior to redelivery to Allerton.
 

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323212 & 323220 will be going to Wolverton tomorrow and Saturday (whichever way round) for handback repairs (no room at Soho) prior to redelivery to Allerton.
Interested.
All 323s were based at Soho, and 730s should replace them, but have any 730s started to use Soho yet ? Or maybe they are modifying the site for 730 servicing.
 

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Interested.
All 323s were based at Soho, and 730s should replace them, but have any 730s started to use Soho yet ? Or maybe they are modifying the site for 730 servicing.
730s are stabled on Soho and have been for a few months now, I think they run the driver training runs up the Chase line from Soho.
 

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How does the driver get back to Soho once he/she reaches Wolverton or Allerton? Dead-heads on a service train then taxi to/from the commercial railway station, or taxi the whole way?
 

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How does the driver get back to Soho once he/she reaches Wolverton or Allerton? Dead-heads on a service train then taxi to/from the commercial railway station, or taxi the whole way?
It isn't a WMT driver. I believe it's ROG who running and providing the driver for the move
 

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323220 path for Saturday

That will mean 212, 214 and 220 will be at Wolverton from Saturday. Obviously 214 will return to Soho as it isn't a Northern bound set.
 

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323220 path for Saturday

That will mean 212, 214 and 220 will be at Wolverton from Saturday. Obviously 214 will return to Soho as it isn't a Northern bound set.

I think only a handful are remaining with WMR. Peak crowd busters?
 

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I think only a handful are remaining with WMR. Peak crowd busters?
They should be returned to poterbrook, I don't believe WMT are keeping any 323s long term sadly.
I think they be put out to tender for lease or possibly disposal
 

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They should be returned to poterbrook, I don't believe WMT are keeping any 323s long term sadly.
I think they be put out to tender for lease or possibly disposal
I think the remaining 9 will end up at northern after the electrification works have been done on the wigan to bolton via westhoughton line.
 

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I think the remaining 9 will end up at northern after the electrification works have been done on the wigan to bolton via westhoughton line.
lets hope the 9 will end up with northern rather than scrapping a good fleet of reliable trains
 

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lets hope the 9 will end up with northern rather than scrapping a good fleet of reliable trains
Let's hope so, But with the 350/2s, TPE MK5s and 175s currently have no future homes (To my knowledge) which are more modern compared to the 323s, I'm not very confident personally.
 

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Here is this weeks update
UnitName/NoteLast seen in WM serviceSourceFutureDate left WM or withdrawn
323201Duddeston
323202Butlers LaneNorthern
323203AstonSun 05Nov2023RayNorthern
323204Selly OakSun 31Dec2023RailUK
323205Blake StreetFri 24Nov2023RayNorthern
323206Barnt GreenNorthern
323207BournvilleWed 27Dec2023RailUKNorthern
323208Five WaysTransferredNorthernSat 28Oct2023
323209Birmingham New StreetNorthern
323210ShenstoneMon 01Jan2024RayNorthern
323211Four Oaks
323212BromsgroveWed 27Dec2023RailUKNorthernMay be mid Jan2024
323213Sutton ColdfieldSun 31Dec2023RailUKNorthern
323214Wylde GreenTue 26Dec2023RailUKAt Wolverton for repairs
323215Gravelly HillMon 01Jan2024Ray
323216University
323217Mon 01Jan2024RayNorthern
323218Mon 01Jan2024RayNorthern
323219Kings NortonNorthern
323220Lichfield Trent ValleyWed 27Dec2023RailUKNorthernMay be mid Jan2024
323221Was 'Northfield' (now in 'Centro' liverySun 31Dec2023Friend
323222RedditchMon 06Nov2023Ray
323240ErdingtonMon 01Jan2024Ray
323241Dave Pomroy 323 Fleet Engineer 40 Years Service.Mon 01Jan2024RayNorthern
323242AlvechurchSat 30Dec2023RailUKNorthern
323243LongbridgeMon 06Nov2023RayNorthern
As atTue 02Jan2024

There are plenty of gaps to be filled in:
No reports at all for units 201, 202, 206, 209 211, 216 and 219.
Last reported in November for 203, 205, 222 and 243.
323243 Longbridge and 323219 Kings Norton are working together this afternoon. As are 323222 Redditch and 323202 Butlers Lane. 323218 worked as a singular 3 car set unfortunately.

323209 Birmingham New Street is also out, couldn’t catch the unit it was coupled with. Same for 323221 Centro.
 
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After its transfer north in October 323208 is out today on its tour of the NW :D

Allerton DD 05:245F68AN1081
Liverpool LimeSt 605:3805:462F68AN1081
Wigan NW 2606:3206:522C03AN1081
Liverpool LimeSt 4607:4308:022A12AN1081
Manchester Int Apt 8909:2509:322F29AN1081
Liverpool LimeSt 13210:5211:452F52AN1081
Wigan NW 15312:3212:532C15AN1081
Liverpool LimeSt 17313:4314:002A18AN1081
Manchester Int Apt 21615:2515:322F23AN1081
Liverpool LimeSt 25916:5322:012A26AN1081
Manchester Int Apt 30223:2123:365T26AN1082 with 323229
Manchester Picc 31323:5123:575T26AN1081 with 323229
 

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After its transfer north in October 323208 is out today on its tour of the NW :D

Allerton DD 05:245F68AN1081
Liverpool LimeSt 605:3805:462F68AN1081
Wigan NW 2606:3206:522C03AN1081
Liverpool LimeSt 4607:4308:022A12AN1081
Manchester Int Apt 8909:2509:322F29AN1081
Liverpool LimeSt 13210:5211:452F52AN1081
Wigan NW 15312:3212:532C15AN1081
Liverpool LimeSt 17313:4314:002A18AN1081
Manchester Int Apt 21615:2515:322F23AN1081
Liverpool LimeSt 25916:5322:012A26AN1081
Manchester Int Apt 30223:2123:365T26AN1082 with 323229
Manchester Picc 31323:5123:575T26AN1081 with 323229
I think it is its first day in service with Northern. The Wigan turns can only be operated by Liverpool crews as Wigan crews do not sign 323s.
 
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