West Coast to Edinburgh via Glasgow Ticket Validity

[class17]

Hello,

I remember that some time ago you go to Edinburgh via Glasgow from stations on the West Coast main line. But then I seem to think this wasn't allowed. Standard tickets, not advances.

I have a STD Single from Edinburgh to Preston on a Sunday, one option showing up is an advance via Motherwell (Cross Country).

Will this be valid, or indeed via Falkirk if disruption?

 

[Mcr Warrior]

I think that's o.k. As long as the STD single isn't a route "TPE Only" Anytime Day Single. Anyone able to confirm this understanding?

 

[Watershed]

The validity (or otherwise) via Glasgow depends on the exact journey you're making. From Preston to Edinburgh, walk-up tickets routed "via Carlisle" are valid via Glasgow and then via Falkirk, Bathgate or Shotts provided you don't double back along the way. You can also change at Motherwell and then go via Shotts.

Advances can be booked via any of these routes subject to the availability that is released by the relevant train companies. Any ticket that you book is automatically valid on the accompanying itinerary and you don't need to worry about whether or not it's intended to be valid that way.

In the event of a cancellation to a DfT controlled operator's service such as XC or TPE, your ticket is automatically valid on other DfT operators on any reasonable route. ScotRail are a devolved operator so they fall outside the scope of that agreement.

However, if you have an Advance covering multiple TOCs it will typically be routed "X & Connections" - meaning it is doesn't have an operator restriction for the connecting leg of the journey. So in the event of disruption you could use any service along any permitted route, which amounts to pretty much the same thing as the above agreement.

 

[voyagerdude220]

Back when Virgin Trains operated the West Coast, I used to regularly buy Advance First tickets Preston-Edinburgh via Glasgow Central/Queen Street and vice versa, the majority of the time they only cost around £25 each way with Young Persons Railcard discount.

I never had any problems with them being checked on trains, apart from occasionally northbound the Train Manager on the Glasgow bound Pendolino understandably felt confused until I explained I was aware I was going via Glasgow and therefore on the correct train.

 

[Mcr Warrior]

@class17 was however asking about tickets other than advances.

 

[Watershed]

@class17 was however asking about tickets other than advances.

They were asking about both:

one option showing up is an advance via Motherwell (Cross Country).