YX73OUB
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Yes as quoted above - and it's more likely to be when Transmach - not if.
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BULLSAREMAGIC
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if I remember correctly the Rainbow routes were ushered in with the Optare Deltas, I was working from Chilwell depot at time and recall seeing vinylls being applied. I think some rainbow routes involved Deltas heading to Manchester which must have been a spirited journey
Trainman40083
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I was trying to convey "they might, they might not"
The Transpeak was renumbered R1 and a rainbow route but I never saw a Delta run through to Manchester. However the camera never lies! https://flic.kr/p/2n7LuiM
My only real exposure to Trent prior to moving to Chesterfield in 2013 was the TransPeak and 199. I certainly recall seeing Deltas on the Transpeak, not frequently, but it also wasn't extremely rare.
I can't recall the make, but I did prefer when it was run by more coach-like vehicles.
When was it actually cut back to Buxton? I think I only ever caught it once between Buxton and Stockport, mainly as I lived 5 minutes from Davenport station and it was far quicker by train to get to Buxton.
Last Transpeak out of Manchester was 21st July 2018, bringing an end to an 88 year long bus connection between there and Derby
Really? I thought it had been cut short long before then? Or was it a case of most journeys cut short with only a few doing the full route?
Maybe my memory is playing up, but I thought there had been some major cuts before I left Stockport in 2013.
I thought it was always around 4/5 per day to Manchester with a hourly service from Buxton.
Trainman40083
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If
If I recall, passenger numbers top side of Buxton dropped when the train service went half hourly. Then COVID struck and the train service went back to hourly, and I presume still is.
Np13
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747 is back in service today having been off the road since April
It seems to be mostly half-hourly these days. I only use it infrequently, but other than the odd gap I've seen it does seem to have reverted to being more frequent again.
I do wonder if they've missed a trick now that the airport relief road has opened, where they could have kept the TP and run it via the Airport in to Manchester. Would save passengers having to double-back, but I guess would also mean a much more frequent service would be needed to meet the needs of anyone using the airport.
Trainman40083
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I just thought people for the Airport would use the 199 Skylink.
It's considerably faster if you omit Stockport, and if it was also a limited stop route you'd save more time still.
Trainman40083
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But surely many people travel to Stockport
Just been on it on its first run. The next stop announcements didn't work although it does now have a screen behind the drivers cab (but only showing today's date and time, and the time only updating when the doors opened!). When the stop bell is pressed a very quiet female voice through the speakers says "bus stopping, please remain seated until it has come to a complete stop".
Dwarfer1979
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It's considerably faster to not stop to pick up passengers either but that doesn't mean you will create a viable service. You also have to ask how many passengers would just be taken from the existing service undermining the viability of one whilst costing significant resource.
The significant majority of passengers on the 199 are heading to Stockport. Manchester Airport is very much a marginal addition.
StavBered
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I believe that announcement is played when the hanover kit hasn't been programmed yet. Looks like it hasn't been done yet unlike other LM volvos, which have working NSAs
You know, I'm surprised any bus companies bother to operate services at all, going on some of the responses you get on this forum...
My point was whether Transpeak beyond Buxton would be viable these days run as an Airport service. You'd probably not add much to the journey time to Manchester and would provide a better link than there is currently.
Yes, my experience when in Stockport was it wasn't used much cross-town. It was great for me going to the airport, faster than the train as well as cheaper. I'm quite surprised there hasn't been a better Stockport to Airport bus put on post franchising, if anything I believe the 199 has been cut back on that section.
However, doesn't your asserting that the majority were going to Stockport rather undermine the question of extraction by a direct airport service? You'd lose a few certainly, but the much quicker journey should also add custom.