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Mr TrainGuy

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th Kinchbus yutongs are quite small tiny buses anyway what is the deal with 741 it has been off the road for nearly a month
Kinch's Yutongs are E9Ls (9.5m) so are same length as the sprint Solos and E12s (12.17m) so are roughly similar length to the Volvo B7RLEs. RE 741, it's having its front replaced due to heavy leaking into the driver's cabin.
 
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Kinch's Yutongs are E9Ls (9.5m) so are same length as the sprint Solos and E12s (12.17m) so are roughly similar length to the Volvo B7RLEs. RE 741, it's having its front replaced due to heavy leaking into the driver's cabin.
Oh I hope to see her on the road again soon she better get the care she deserves
 

mesub

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Is Yutong demonstrator YE74VGO still working at Kinchbus? For a while it was tracking as the electric Volvo, 9998.
Yes, it tends to spend its days on Campus Shuttle. I believe it's also being used for driver familiarisation ahead of the actual Yutongs arriving.

Because the data on the ticket machine hasn't changed, we're not able to change it on bustimes at the moment.
 

YX73OUB

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As in the entire front end being rebuilt? If that's the case, then yikes
Many other wright bodied vehicles have had the same done in the past - it's no biggy.

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Presumably this order was made before Kinch took back the 3 from Centrebus and rerouted the 2 to accommodate part of the old 13 route. Does this mean that the 3 could be accommodated within the order, or would the need to keep buses back as spares possibly mean that the 3 won’t be included in the Yutong operation. I always thought that the 3/13 probably could have just run as one half hourly loop throughout the day as one service. Does separating them and axing the 13 make sense from a resource perspective?

Has there also been a change this summer in how Kinchbus is operated as a subsidiary? I always understood that Kinchbus had its own GM, but it seems the most recent one has gone back to Heanor.
The former Sutton GM went to Kinch and the previous post holder is now at Langley Mill as service delivery manager.
 

callum3490

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Same as me that happened like 4 months ago Trent has a thing with putting written off vehicles back on the road
The first fire involving 804 seemed relatively minor by comparison, the chances of it making another comeback are next to none, it was surprising given its age it was brought back to life after the first incident.
 

Teapot42

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It won't have been written off if it was put back on the road...
There are plenty of written-off vehicles on the road.

Being a write-off just means the insurer doesn't consider it worth fixing. Older vehicles can be written off for fairly minor damage, and I'd guess a bus company doesn't just have the value of the bus to consider, but also the cost to replace it with a similar vehicle. If they have their own engineering department then it might be cheaper for them to do the repair work than an insurer would estimate as well.
 

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There are plenty of written-off vehicles on the road.

Being a write-off just means the insurer doesn't consider it worth fixing. Older vehicles can be written off for fairly minor damage, and I'd guess a bus company doesn't just have the value of the bus to consider, but also the cost to replace it with a similar vehicle. If they have their own engineering department then it might be cheaper for them to do the repair work than an insurer would estimate as well.
A good example elsewhere, of written off buses making a comeback, was those Stagecoach buses in the Carlisle flood. So, never say never. But in Trentbarton's case, soon the Sixes Versas will be available for another route
 

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Citaro 904 is off with no MOT, leaving just 906 in service. I thought 715 and 716 transferred to cover the Citaros...

I ended up buying Citaro 904. With Euro 6 kit on it could have joined the rest of my Citaros in service. However it became a rich source of spare parts and went for scrap.
 

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These are almost as demanding as the Sixes routes, would that be the best?
I don't disagree, it's exactly why I'd expect it. After all we have lightweight ADLs on a high demanding 24 hour service between Derby and Leicester :lol:
 

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I don't disagree, it's exactly why I'd expect it. After all we have lightweight ADLs on a high demanding 24 hour service between Derby and Leicester :lol:
Just think. By Christmas, they might even get the ex Skylink 20 plated Enviros on the road. If they still work after sitting for so long. That would release the Twos Volvos to upgrade, by August. Trouble is ...there doesn't appear to be enough buses in service, to cover planned work.
 

callum3490

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Just think. By Christmas, they might even get the ex Skylink 20 plated Enviros on the road. If they still work after sitting for so long. That would release the Twos Volvos to upgrade, by August. Trouble is ...there doesn't appear to be enough buses in service, to cover planned work.
I don’t think the “upgrades” will affect availability as its like for like swaps in terms of number of buses - Theres definitely a shortage of spares at trent for multiple reasons though
 

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I don’t think the “upgrades” will affect availability as its like for like swaps in terms of number of buses - Theres definitely a shortage of spares at trent for multiple reasons though
Maybe from a business point of view, you can only have a number of spares. Above that, it could affect profitability etc. Just blame traffic etc for missing buses.
 

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