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Just been reading somethings online about the new coaches for redarrow and the flixbus partnership.

Does this mean there's 10 Yutong GT12 for the readarrow and a further batch of 9 for the flixbus operations?
Yes!! As discussed above, there's been some interesting developments in Wellglade this week, with 19 new Yutongs!
 
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Just been reading somethings online about the new coaches for redarrow and the flixbus partnership.

Does this mean there's 10 Yutong GT12 for the readarrow and a further batch of 9 for the flixbus operations?
That is correct. 19 in total...
 

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The most recent edit for 906 on Bustimes suggests that it's at Langley Mill to have its MOT renewed. Interesting development.

I can only speculate what the new fleet numbers of all the new vehicles (re)entering the Wellglade fleet will be. Obviously the Tempos B1 and B2 can't revert to their original fleet numbers as those are being used by the newest MMCs. But it would make sense to renumber Littles' Wright Eclipse Urban to 700 as it's older than all of the other B7s with Trentbarton. But who knows, perhaps they might even start afresh with a new fleet numbering system.
 

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The most recent edit for 906 on Bustimes suggests that it's at Langley Mill to have its MOT renewed. Interesting development.
Having seen how much Kinch have struggled today...im really not surprised its being renewed.. I'd assume that 503 is there to replace sprint 7 when the mmcs go back

I can only speculate what the new fleet numbers of all the new vehicles (re)entering the Wellglade fleet will be. Obviously the Tempos B1 and B2 can't revert to their original fleet numbers as those are being used by the newest MMCs. But it would make sense to renumber Littles' Wright Eclipse Urban to 700 as it's older than all of the other B7s with Trentbarton. But who knows, perhaps they might even start afresh with a new fleet numbering system.
I think they will keep to themselves, but when they get new vehicles they might start getting slightly involved in the main wellglade FN system.
 

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The most recent edit for 906 on Bustimes suggests that it's at Langley Mill to have its MOT renewed. Interesting development.

I can only speculate what the new fleet numbers of all the new vehicles (re)entering the Wellglade fleet will be. Obviously the Tempos B1 and B2 can't revert to their original fleet numbers as those are being used by the newest MMCs. But it would make sense to renumber Littles' Wright Eclipse Urban to 700 as it's older than all of the other B7s with Trentbarton. But who knows, perhaps they might even start afresh with a new fleet numbering system.
It will be interesting to see what new numbers appear .If you look at 19 new Yutongs, would they reuse 80 upwards, to have a new series say, 1000 upwards. Maybe Littles, 1300 upwards , or follow on from TM Travel. Of course, Littles could maintain their own numbering series.

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The most recent edit for 906 on Bustimes suggests that it's at Langley Mill to have its MOT renewed. Interesting development.

I can only speculate what the new fleet numbers of all the new vehicles (re)entering the Wellglade fleet will be. Obviously the Tempos B1 and B2 can't revert to their original fleet numbers as those are being used by the newest MMCs. But it would make sense to renumber Littles' Wright Eclipse Urban to 700 as it's older than all of the other B7s with Trentbarton. But who knows, perhaps they might even start afresh with a new fleet numbering system.
Maybe 906 is having a MOT prior to being sold, as part of the sale agreement (with 904)
 

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It will be interesting to see what new numbers appear .If you look at 19 new Yutongs, would they reuse 80 upwards, to have a new series say, 1000 upwards. Maybe Littles, 1300 upwards , or follow on from TM Travel. Of course, Littles could maintain their own numbering series.
Theres quite a few gaps beginning to form between the 1-101 fleet numbers. Maybe some vehicles will get renumbered to make space so they are only 2 digits? The flixbus fleet might not even be apart of the main Wellglade FN system since they would be a completely separate part of the operations
 

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Personally I found putting the Notts and Derby ex Wales E200's as 51-54 a bit odd as it is in the middle of the deckers and coaches.
 

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Personally I found putting the Notts and Derby ex Wales E200's as 51-54 a bit odd as it is in the middle of the deckers and coaches.
Notts and derby tend to go for 2 to 3 digit numbers, with tm going for 4 digits. Most of the 3 digits are taken by quite dominant vehicles within wellglade, with mmcs, volvos, versas ect. The only space really would of been a 2 digit number since it would be out the way of future development while also allowing a mini fleet development for n+d
 

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Personally I found putting the Notts and Derby ex Wales E200's as 51-54 a bit odd as it is in the middle of the deckers and coaches.
It'd make sense to find a new number range for the littles and N&D E200s, to keep them together. Maybe 278+ as it's only a few vehicles. Are Littles bus stops getting Wellglade style timetable boards?
 

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It'd make sense to find a new number range for the littles and N&D E200s, to keep them together. Maybe 278+ as it's only a few vehicles. Are Littles bus stops getting Wellglade style timetable boards?
Ah but 278 upwards suggests 4 cylinder engines...

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Does anyone know who is buying Mercedes Citaros 904 and 906? Word is 906 is at Langley Mill for MOT preparation.

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Optare Solo 1156 (YJ60 PFK) appears to have entered service today with TM Travel . Recently withdrawn by Stagecoach London.
 
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Does anyone know who is buying Mercedes Citaros 904 and 906? Word is 906 is at Langley Mill for MOT preparation.
Higher ups probably the only people who know...and of course the new owners. Might be preserved but i think it would be a company, not really at an age to be preserved yet.

Optare Solo 1156 (YJ60 PFK) appears to have entered service today with TM Travel . Recently withdrawn by Stagecoach London.
Ex-london so its red! ;) Also E6 so will be compliant with CAS
 

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Higher ups probably the only people who know...and of course the new owners. Might be preserved but i think it would be a company, not really at an age to be preserved yet.


Ex-london so its red! ;) Also E6 so will be compliant with CAS
Re the Solo... Exactly. And almost in fleet livery, with it being red (Just like Scania 1173 was). Optare Versa 825 appears to have been relaxed today.

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Re the Solo... Exactly. And almost in fleet livery, with it being red (Just like Scania 1173 was). Optare Versa 825 appears to have been relaxed today.
Correction 1172 was
 

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Re the Solo... Exactly. And almost in fleet livery, with it being red (Just like Scania 1173 was). Optare Versa 825 appears to have been relaxed today.

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Correction 1172 was
Thing with the scania is it was fine on the side....but the front with the logo they had the dark red with the logo so it just made it look weird in my opinion. Otherwise I think it would of looked decent and to any regular person they wouldn't realise its ex-London. Down side with london vehicles too is they would need their blind converting from a roll blind and usually have the dual door removed.
 

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An interesting development is that E200 106 seems to have been painted into the new Mickleover livery. Maybe 314 is more badly damaged than we thought...
 

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An interesting development is that E200 106 seems to have been painted into the new Mickleover livery. Maybe 314 is more badly damaged than we thought...
There was apparently consultation in increasing mickleover frequency again, clearly somethings happened, last I knew a few weeks ago 106 was still at LM. Might also allow a bit of a temporary cover for 314 before the timetable change, since nothings been announced yet, allowing a spare to be allocated to something more useful
 

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There was apparently consultation in increasing mickleover frequency again, clearly somethings happened, last I knew a few weeks ago 106 was still at LM. Might also allow a bit of a temporary cover for 314 before the timetable change, since nothings been announced yet, allowing a spare to be allocated to something more useful
Much of the time, there is no spare for the Mickleover route.
 

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Much of the time, there is no spare for the Mickleover route.
Always seems to be something found. Earlier 491 was on Mickleover meanwhile 492 was the sole bus on V3 until 9 am when 740 joined it. I do think it was a bad idea that mickleover got brand new vehicles, only for the frequency to go up a few months later requiring the old vehicles again.
 

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Always seems to be something found. Earlier 491 was on Mickleover meanwhile 492 was the sole bus on V3 until 9 am when 740 joined it. I do think it was a bad idea that mickleover got brand new vehicles, only for the frequency to go up a few months later requiring the old vehicles again.
Not ideal is it? I think this might beat the i4 getting the Tempo SRs to replace 55 reg Scanias only for some 03 reg scanias to end up getting painted and headrests to enable a PVR increase
 

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Always seems to be something found. Earlier 491 was on Mickleover meanwhile 492 was the sole bus on V3 until 9 am when 740 joined it. I do think it was a bad idea that mickleover got brand new vehicles, only for the frequency to go up a few months later requiring the old vehicles again.
Well , it looks like 491 came off the Mickleover. 492 missed a return diagram on the V3, a bus missing off the Allestree for a few days and there has only been one bus on the 6.2 all day. But for a frequency increase on the Mickleover, surely it would need two buses.
 

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Well , it looks like 491 came off the Mickleover. 492 missed a return diagram on the V3, a bus missing off the Allestree for a few days and there has only been one bus on the 6.2 all day. But for a frequency increase on the Mickleover, surely it would need two buses.
Maybe 105'll get done.
 

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Not ideal is it? I think this might beat the i4 getting the Tempo SRs to replace 55 reg Scanias only for some 03 reg scanias to end up getting painted and headrests to enable a PVR increase
Eh, with that its 2 different vehicle types...Atleast this is both mmcs, though two very different spec'd mmc.
Well , it looks like 491 came off the Mickleover.
Ah yes thats right, I must of seen it around its last trip, not really checked bustimes for it so i thought it was still on.
492 missed a return diagram on the V3, a bus missing off the Allestree for a few days
Comet also missed a vehicle earlier im fairly sure until 847 came on, although 847 wasn't tracking for the most part yesterday so might just be a tracking error.
there has only been one bus on the 6.2 all day.
I did see a sixes versa parked up outside meadow road having just been towed in. Probably 838.
But for a frequency increase on the Mickleover, surely it would need two buses.
Maybe 105'll get done.
Yeah it would, does seem that it was Blackburn bus and coach that 106 was repainted, with 739 recently being finished I could only assume 105/6 were booked in quite a while ago, just stay at Langley until B&C wanted them.

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It is about time we had another bus in Mango livery.
Wont be long till a replacement for 669 will be due, maybe 712...
 

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Eh, with that its 2 different vehicle types...Atleast this is both mmcs, though two very different spec'd mmc.

Ah yes thats right, I must of seen it around its last trip, not really checked bustimes for it so i thought it was still on.

Comet also missed a vehicle earlier im fairly sure until 847 came on, although 847 wasn't tracking for the most part yesterday so might just be a tracking error.

I did see a sixes versa parked up outside meadow road having just been towed in. Probably 838.


Yeah it would, does seem that it was Blackburn bus and coach that 106 was repainted, with 739 recently being finished I could only assume 105/6 were booked in quite a while ago, just stay at Langley until B&C wanted them.

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Wont be long till a replacement for 669 will be due, maybe 712...
Ah but 712 is already in Mango livery
 

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