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joieman

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Perhaps you don't remember the Pegasus service in the late 90s that ran hourly between Derby and Leicester using the motorway - one of the reasons it didn't work was because of the unpredictability of traffic on the M1 which occasionally caused massive delays. Lesson learned from that is to avoid using the M1 completely.

Link to a photo of a Pegasus bus in 1998, credit to Tony Wilson on Flickr
Yeah... that was long before my time!

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I fully agree on the use of ‘Skylink Yellow/Blue/Grey’ with the circles. Notts & Derby used those names during Download on their timetable.
I think the regular Skylink Derby buses only have plain white blinds, so they'd have to retrofit new blinds to at least twelve buses to be able to display the circles in the correct colour.

Speaking of the blinds, I find it quite odd that though the Kinchbus 9 has been branded with the colour red, when a bus with a coloured blind runs on it, the number on the blind is usually pale blue!
 
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Trainman40083

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Yeah... that was long before my time!

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I think the regular Skylink Derby buses only have plain white blinds, so they'd have to retrofit new blinds to at least twelve buses to be able to display the circles in the correct colour.

Speaking of the blinds, I find it quite odd that though the Kinchbus 9 has been branded with the colour red, when a bus with a coloured blind runs on it, the number on the blind is usually pale blue!
I presume you don't mean a red led blind. Displaying red lights on the front of a vehicle is illegal, which is why red routes in Derby got changed to green routes, when blinds were changed to such as led.
 

317 forever

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Personally, I would split the Skylink at EMA. Skylink Derby could do a mickleover style loop around Donnington/EMA/EMG with TB operating this. Then you can have a Skylink Leicester which at the airport can loop via Pegasus>EMA>DHL then straight to EMG.

Im not a fan of the current ‘Skylink Derby’ name as 1) the marketing is too biased on Derby (I live in Leicester) and 2) It sometimes causes confusion for those who dont use the bus often.

If I want to travel between Leicester and Derby for instance, I would take the train, even with the £2 bus fare.
Last year I was travelling from Leicester to Derby to get trains home from there. As I knew the most suitable timing, the EMR Advance fare of £3.30 was a no brainer, even though more expensive than the Skylink bus.
 

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According to the timetable library, DCT routes 147/148 are being taken over by N&D from November 1st.
 
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joieman

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Last year I was travelling from Leicester to Derby to get trains home from there. As I knew the most suitable timing, the EMR Advance fare of £3.30 was a no brainer, even though more expensive than the Skylink bus.
What about between Loughborough and Derby?

Most times I've travelled between the two, I've used the bus.
 

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Changes from the 3rd November:
From Sunday 3 November, we are making the following service changes to the cotgrave, mainline & rushcliffe villager.

mainline
  • An improved evening service Monday - Thursday to increase frequency to half-hourly.
  • Changes to early morning timetables Monday - Sunday to offer an ideal arrival of 6.23am in Nottingham for those travelling to the QMC.

the cotgrave
  • Restoring an hourly evening service to Cotgrave on Monday - Thursday
  • Improvements to evening peaks to improve reliability

rushcliffe villager
  • A revised route around Newton to take in a new housing development
  • A revised route around Bingham to take in the Bingham Gate development
  • An alteration to the route in Gunthorpe to reverse the direction of the current loop
 

ACBest

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Changes from the 3rd November:
The change to the Rushcliffe Villager to have it serve the new estate in Bingham is intriguing to say the least, given that Vectare/Central Connect serve it too, but take a far more direct route to Nottingham.
 

Robertj21a

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All this talk about changing the Kinchbus Skylink, just why? It’s quite clear it’s been a success story in its current form. Introducing different variations of routing would just add complexity and confusion for passengers.
Absolutely. The Skylink Derby is fine, and very succesful. Leave it alone !!
 

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EX villager now mango 740 sat at Medeow road yesterday afternoon to note it still retains the yellow villager head rests inside. I do hope it stays a Derby vehicle as it was a decent bus to drive not fast but smooth and nice sounding gearbox.
741 sounded better though.
 

joieman

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I presume you don't mean a red led blind. Displaying red lights on the front of a vehicle is illegal, which is why red routes in Derby got changed to green routes, when blinds were changed to such as led.
I just decided to check photos of the Yutongs on Nottingham City Transport's Red Line 50, and they have red on their front blinds.
 

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Looks like notts and derby are doing an i4 shuttle onto Nottingham Road today, using e200 53
 

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Does anybody know why the Royal Derby service was transferred from TB to N+D?
I believe it was due to a shortage of trentbarton drivers & buses at the time (during Covid) so it was transferred to N+D which had more drivers and buses spare.
 

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Does anybody know why the Royal Derby service was transferred from TB to N+D?
N&D drivers were working it for a while anyway due to shortages and it was already debranded by that point. It's just cheaper in the long run to hand it over to N&D who have lower operating costs, for a service that wasn't exactly the biggest money maker. Same goes for the 27
 

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There are small notices attached to some bus stops on Station Road in Mickleover with the Notts & Derby logo and a message "new service from this stop coming soon" but no other details - nothing on the N&D website.

I wonder if this could be the bus to the new housing at Hackwood at the end of Station Road
 

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Is there any particular reason why Skylink Derby has difficulty running to the advertised timetable? I walked from Derby Station into town this evening (Sat) at 7.30 pm and two Skylinks passed me on Siddals Road, no more than a minute apart.

Assuming they aren't running extra journeys, it must be very annoying for anyone expecting a 15 minute frequency to have two running together followed by a 30 minute gap!
I've noticed it happen quite a lot recently.
 

bringiton

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Is there any particular reason why Skylink Derby has difficulty running to the advertised timetable? I walked from Derby Station into town this evening (Sat) at 7.30 pm and two Skylinks passed me on Siddals Road, no more than a minute apart.

Assuming they aren't running extra journeys, it must be very annoying for anyone expecting a 15 minute frequency to have two running together followed by a 30 minute gap!
I've noticed it happen quite a lot recently.
Lots of variables, traffic, which around pride park can be hectic especially during the school rush. Theres also passenger loading, if the bus is late then itll be carrying more passengers since the passengers expecting the next bus will start arriving at the stop, making it later. Not to mention how kinch drivers tend to wait for passengers to have sat down, which isn't always long but can take up a bit of time each stop. As well, sometimes they return to the (meadow road) depot for a clean and refuel, which if late can just make you even later
 

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Lots of variables, traffic, which around pride park can be hectic especially during the school rush. Theres also passenger loading, if the bus is late then itll be carrying more passengers since the passengers expecting the next bus will start arriving at the stop, making it later. Not to mention how kinch drivers tend to wait for passengers to have sat down, which isn't always long but can take up a bit of time each stop. As well, sometimes they return to the (meadow road) depot for a clean and refuel, which if late can just make you even later
Not to mention roadworks as well, which as of recently have caused quite lengthy delays along multiple routes, not exclusively to skylink Derby.
 

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