Weird behaviour by fellow passenger

[Xenophon PCDGS]

The style of music I listen too (trance/progressive) is really designed to be listened to in a club environment, so keeping the volume right down isn't on the menu for me ... I'd rather not listen to any music than not be able to appreciate it properly.

I have emboldened that part of your posting which goes to prove that there is most certainly a tremendous locational difference between a train journey and a club environment where music of the type that is normally played at high volume is concerned.

I will defend your right to listen to such music at high volume to the hilt, but only if it is played in the correct locational environment.
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Then there's the music you do like but all you can hear is tsh-tsh-tsh-bang-tish.

Perhaps a new musical genre can be established where all the music played is just of this very nature as a normal output....

 

[edwin_m]

First time I encountered someone with headphones on a train was probably around 1980 when my brother and I were making a long journey to Devon. We were wondering why the bloke was listening to percussion solos the whole way.

 

[ainsworth74]

Just walk down the carriage with a big sign saying "Tickets and passes please" you can use the sign to accidentaly knock people around the head with lol

I thought that's what a bardic lamp was for?

 

[jamesst]

On train last night. Packed. Old 'sprinter' type train which isn't the best at the best of times.

No seats so standing. Had earphones in listening to voice mail. Look up and theres woman right up close to my face so I take earphones out. She says "is that your music I can hear because its loud". Bit shocked I say "No". So she rants on "I don't mind you listening but I just don't want some peace and quiet" and walks off.

Then she sits down about 4 rows away from me. Looking around there's about 10 people with headphones on near her. Her head is bobbing around as if shes trying to work out where the sound is coming from. Three times in the next 10 mins she gets up, walks over to confront an alleged sound abuser.

Guard comes along eventually and she seems to be having a right dig at him. Seems to be pointing to some student looking lad too (one of the 3 she spoke to).

Struck me as weird behaviour. Did wonder if she was asking the guard to ask the driver to not rev the train so much to be honest.

You sure she was all there?

 

[waterlooroader]

Then there's the music you do like but all you can hear is tsh-tsh-tsh-bang-tish.

I think that is the problem; it's usually people who have an awful taste in music that feel the need to share it with the rest of the carriage.

It's never a fan of Bob Dylan or Half Man Half Biscuit that plays it too loud! (What was I saying about poor taste in music? )

 

[trainophile]

First time I encountered someone with headphones on a train was probably around 1980 when my brother and I were making a long journey to Devon. We were wondering why the bloke was listening to percussion solos the whole way.

First time I encountered someone wearing headphones, I thought it was some sort of hearing aid . Not long afterwards I watched a bloke untangling his earphone cords, and became anxious that he was a terrorist about to detonate an explosive device!

How times change - there's more passengers wearing earphones than not these days.

 

[thelongestroad]

You sure she was all there?

My thoughts too!

Where was this by the way? She might sound familiar.

 

[snail]

And then there's the music where you can hear even more than just the tsh-tsh-tsh, but not quite enough to quite recognise what it is... which is immensely frustrating!

I've asked people playing particularly loud music what they are listening to. Now that can get you strange looks!

Generally though I rely nowadays on my Sony in-ear noise isolating units that do a good job of blocking music and conversation but not PA announcements.

 

[westv]

Talking of weird behaviour, why do some women prefet to put their makeup on when in a shaky train rather than their far more stable home? Is it a statement that their lifestyle is so 24/7 they just don't have the time!

 

[sprinterguy]

Talking of weird behaviour, why do some women prefet to put their makeup on when in a shaky train rather than their far more stable home? Is it a statement that their lifestyle is so 24/7 they just don't have the time!

If the example of my other half is anything to go by, then it is simply down to leaving getting ready to the last possible minute. There appear to be some Derbyshire lasses who have their preparations for a night out so finely honed that they time their application of make-up to correspond to the traverse of the Totley tunnel on the way into Sheffield, so that they can use the window of the Pacer as a mirror!

 

[Hellfire]

The problem is the design of ridiculous in-ear phones made popular by Apple. A triumph of style over practicality. The sound is bound to leak from these.

Because some of the sound leaks people tend to turn up the volume more.

I listen to music and watch films while travelling but I always use enclosed ear headphones which don't leak. If more people did that the sound pollution in trains would be much less.

Don't get me going on the morons who ignore the rules in a quiet carriage. Personally I'd have more quiet carriages in trains. Virgin offer just coach A in standard in a Pendo. This has fewer seats than other standard coaches. I'd like to see at least two coaches designated as quiet. Coach A on my service is always full so there must be a demand.

 

[Mugby]

I once sat near to a woman who was applying nail varnish or nail varnish remover and the fumes emanating from whatever it was were literally choking me, I had to move!

As regards the sounds leaking from headphones, perhaps one way of counteracting it would be for the TOC's to pipe Muzac through the PA system! (except in the quiet coach of course!)

 

[dcsprior]

If you have an even halfway decent pair of closed-back on-ear headphones then any volume which you can listen to music at without risking your hearing will not be noticable to other passengers. Certainly with my budget (£40) headphones I can listen as loud as I'd want without disturbing anyone

 

[edwin_m]

As regards the sounds leaking from headphones, perhaps one way of counteracting it would be for the TOC's to pipe Muzac through the PA system! (except in the quiet coach of course!)

No no no no NO! I hope this isn't a serious suggestion.

All that would happen is that everyone using headphones would turn their volume up to drown it out, thus both ruining their own hearing and increasing irritation to others. And the environment would be noisier for those who want to concentrate on something else but might have to take a call occasionally so can't go in the quiet coach. Result: everybody gets more annoyed.

 

[cjp]

I'm probably going to come across as the anti-Christ now, but ...

I do like to listen to my music fairly loud.

I am concious that I don't want anybody else to hear it, but it's quite difficult to know whether anybody can or not. Nobody has ever complained that it's too loud, but I can never be quite sure. I'm continuously nudging the volume up and down when I think a certain part of a track might be a bit noisy.

The style of music I listen too (trance/progressive) is really designed to be listened to in a club environment, so keeping the volume right down isn't on the menu for me ... I'd rather not listen to any music than not be able to appreciate it properly.

People who have the music on at full whack are bloody annoying though. Especially when it's music you don't like ... which is probably half the problem really.

Splurge on a set of these.
http://www.minerva-hearingprotection.co.uk/mi-performer.html
Very comfortable, they cannot hear your sounds and you cannot hear their noise.
Just stay awake and not miss your station

 

[arty762]

Whilst riding in first class on a 159 down to Bath on SWT for the day , a women got on with her daughter(about 5or 6 yrs old , she was taking her to an audition of some kind) , she started spraying a whole can of hair spray over her daughters head , it was so thick and cloying that it triggered my wifes asthma , when i asked her if she could not do that in the toilet she got right shirty, but you could hardly breath, even the guard commented on it, luckily she got off at Salisbury.

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

Whilst riding in first class on a 159 down to Bath on SWT for the day , a women got on with her daughter(about 5or 6 yrs old , she was taking her to an audition of some kind) , she started spraying a whole can of hair spray over her daughters head , it was so thick and cloying that it triggered my wifes asthma , when i asked her if she could not do that in the toilet she got right shirty, but you could hardly breath, even the guard commented on it, luckily she got off at Salisbury.

Is there a railway bylaw that covers this occurrence ?

 

[D841 Roebuck]

Is there a railway bylaw that covers this occurrence ?

Dunno. There might be a byelaw though.

In the spirit of thread drift, I can understand the reason why such august and public spirited organisations as the GWR, SECR, L&YR etc were granted the right to concoct byelaws. I'm unclear why the same privilege should be extnended to the current bunch of overbloated bus companies, airlines-manques from the Lesser Antilles and irridentist Prussian outfits looking for lebensraum...

 

[Hellfire]

This thread underlines one of the great truths about railway travel. If there were no passengers it would be a much more civilised experience

 

[Deerfold]

Dunno. There might be a byelaw though.

Both spellings are correct.

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/by-law

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

Both spellings are correct.

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/by-law

Your attention to grammatical detail does you credit. Well done.

 

[transmanche]

Is there a railway bylaw that covers this occurrence ?

Bylaw 2(1) may apply; "Except with written permission from an Operator or an authorised person, no person shall bring with him or allow to remain on the railway any item which, in the opinion of an authorised person, may threaten, annoy, soil or damage any person or any property."

Plus there's the catch all bylaw 6(8) "No person shall molest or wilfully interfere with the comfort or convenience of any person on the railway."