Website members obsession with the Daily Mail

[Busaholic]

The repeated reminders of the Daily Mail's political stance in the late 1930s were initiated by Ken Livingstone during his first stint as London's mayor, when he was elected on an independent ticket, and the Evening Standard, then a paid-for newspaper, took against him in quite a big way.
The Standard was at that stage owned by the Daily Mail group, so Livingstone, in his usual adroit way, got his own back by referencing previous fascist sympathies. The reason he did this, though probably only known to him, may have been because he had been accused by Andrew Gilligan of the ES of making an anti-semitic remark to him.
What Livingstone conveniently forgot to mention was that he had for a year or three himself acted as the Standard's restaurant critic!

 

[Amberley54]

I see that it appears that we are now playing the game called "Just see how bad the "XXXXX" newspaper" was in days long since past. You have gone back to 1939...some 77 years ago with your example above.

Before the Guardian became what it is today, it was called The Manchester Guardian. One major item in the political arena in the early part of the 19th century was the repeal of the Corn Laws. You will be pleased to note that the Manchester Guardian carried a most forthright article on that matter in their edition of 27th June 1846.

Indeed, but who could overlook the strident call for the expulsion of all people of French, Spanish and Dutch nationality in the 'Intelligencer' edition of 14th July 1665?

 

[EM2]

Before the Guardian became what it is today, it was called The Manchester Guardian. One major item in the political arena in the early part of the 19th century was the repeal of the Corn Laws. You will be pleased to note that the Manchester Guardian carried a most forthright article on that matter in their edition of 27th June 1846.

Were they for or against?

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

Were they for or against?

In that Manchester Guardian article to which I made reference to, concerning the repeal of the Corn Laws, the editorial commenced....
"At last, we have to announce the consummation of that decisive triumph of the principles of Free Trade and the advent of which has been foreshadowed by the events and discussions of the last eight years"

One of the most notable buildings in Manchester, until its eventual demise and conversion into some commercial outlet, was The Free Trade Hall.

 

[ExRes]

Sorry, but I just had to bring this thread back to life after seeing a small article in the Telegraph this morning, I quote

"DMGT is to increase the cover price of the Daily Mail by 5p next month to help counter a steep decline in advertising. The publisher said that advertising sales for the past four weeks - including print and digital titles - were down 12% compared with last year"

This after the robust advertising campaign led by this very forum hock:

 

[Butts]

Sorry, but I just had to bring this thread back to life after seeing a small article in the Telegraph this morning, I quote

"DMGT is to increase the cover price of the Daily Mail by 5p next month to help counter a steep decline in advertising. The publisher said that advertising sales for the past four weeks - including print and digital titles - were down 12% compared with last year"

This after the robust advertising campaign led by this very forum hock:

At least it's only going up 5p - the last two Independent rises have been 20p, from £1.20 to £1.40 and then up to £1.60.

Why is the Daily Mail even at it's new price less than half the cost of The Independent or Guardian ? - Circulation ?

 

[EssexGonzo]

At least it's only going up 5p - the last two Independent rises have been 20p, from £1.20 to £1.40 and then up to £1.60.

Why is the Daily Mail even at it's new price less than half the cost of The Independent or Guardian ? - Circulation ?

Perhaps because there's a limit to what people will pay for it? I'd pay that money for the other two papers but not for the DM.

 

[Busaholic]

At least it's only going up 5p - the last two Independent rises have been 20p, from £1.20 to £1.40 and then up to £1.60.

Why is the Daily Mail even at it's new price less than half the cost of The Independent or Guardian ? - Circulation ?

Off topic, but the readers of the Independent are subsidising the i, which at 40p is now only a quarter of the price of the 'full' version yet contains most of the same news items and articles. I resisted for ages, having been an Indy reader since its first edition, but when one day I bought both versions for comparison purposes I realised I'd hardly be missing anything I valued by switching, other than obituaries which I can read online anyway.

 

[Butts]

Off topic, but the readers of the Independent are subsidising the i, which at 40p is now only a quarter of the price of the 'full' version yet contains most of the same news items and articles. I resisted for ages, having been an Indy reader since its first edition, but when one day I bought both versions for comparison purposes I realised I'd hardly be missing anything I valued by switching, other than obituaries which I can read online anyway.

I agree, but I have a subscription which means you get 7 Days Indies for £6 - only recently gone up from a fiver. No way would I pay the cover price, it's sales in Scotland are risible a couple of thousand if they are lucky.

In the media section they used to publish all the newspapers circulations and comment on them periodically, but these figures have mysteriously disappeared of late.

 

[Busaholic]

I agree, but I have a subscription which means you get 7 Days Indies for £6 - only recently gone up from a fiver. No way would I pay the cover price, it's sales in Scotland are risible a couple of thousand if they are lucky.

In the media section they used to publish all the newspapers circulations and comment on them periodically, but these figures have mysteriously disappeared of late.

The reason I decided against a subscription was (a) I worry it may go to the wall and (b) from being my favourite paper, The Ind on Sunday has deteriorated to the point where I hardly ever buy it.