Mcr Warrior
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No doubt they're doing the very best they can in the prevailing circumstances but I know what you meant to say!It’s one of those days. Poor control staff.
No doubt they're doing the very best they can in the prevailing circumstances but I know what you meant to say!It’s one of those days. Poor control staff.
Climate change makes severe storms and rainfall more frequent and severe (apologies for using severe twice!). He’s not wrong…Jon Snow the Channel 4 Journalist has caused a bit of controversy on Twitter linking the disruption to climate change as he is on the way to the climate thing in Glasgow. In Twitter terms he has been "Ratioed" by people pointing out that trees blocking the line during storms is quite common.
Yes. That’s literally how the system worksSo ToCs bill NR for delay repay compensation? Come on.
You’ve lost me mate.No doubt they're doing the very best they can in the prevailing circumstances but I know what you meant to say!![]()
Describing the control staff as "poor"?! I'm sure they're highly professional and extremely competent but having a rather trying day/weekend/week.You’ve lost me mate.
I did wonder but hoped it couldn’t be that cringing.Describing the control staff as "poor"?! I'm sure they're highly professional and extremely competent but having a rather trying day/weekend/week.
Climate change makes severe storms and rainfall more frequent and severe (apologies for using severe twice!). He’s not wrong…
Jon Snow the Channel 4 Journalist has caused a bit of controversy on Twitter linking the disruption to climate change as he is on the way to the climate thing in Glasgow. In Twitter terms he has been "Ratioed" by people pointing out that trees blocking the line during storms is quite common.
"Code black" meaning what exactly? All Avanti services immediately suspended, do not travel and come back tomorrow?Not sure how relevant this is, due to the time of day, however CSL2 Code BLACK has been declared due to ALL Avanti West Coast services now cancelled.
Birmingham bound that oneAn avanti has just passed me near leighton buzzard heading north. Looked like a voyager. Loaded but not vastly so
According to railcam that train, 1901 Windermere to Manchester airport was evacuated due to flooding but is on move nowLooking at traksy seems a passenger train is trapped between Preston & Lancaster, as well as a freight train
Birmingham bound that one
I think it's a way of mobilising maximum response to an incident."Code black" meaning what exactly? All Avanti services immediately suspended, do not travel and come back tomorrow?
There’s a Preston one on way up to you followed closely by Liverpool one. Only other avanti I can see moving is a Lancaster to Glasgow at Carlisle, and an Edinburgh to Birmingham which is being held/cancelled at Oxenholme..and Euston to Manchester via NorthamptonThat avanti is the only train north or south i have seen moving
More accurately "CSL2 - Black" status. My TOC's definition (which is probably much the same as others) is "DO NOT TRAVEL - We cannot provide ANY service or the service is severely disrupted with delays in excess of 2 hours"."Code black" meaning what exactly? All Avanti services immediately suspended, do not travel and come back tomorrow?
Lucky the Queen is staying home on doctors' orders and 1X01 to Glasgow isn't one of the trains held up in the disruption.Lord Zac Goldsmith is reported to be among those stranded as a result of the disruption as he tries to get to COP26.
The 2 x 5 cars out of place, finished ay Heaton, are planned to work 3Y11 to Peterborough, then 1Y11 Peterborough to Kings Cross, where they switch back to diagram.A few observations of some of today's chaos as I made my way, much more slowly than intended, from Peterborough to Peterborough via Leicester, Toton, Sheffield and Doncaster:
Got to Peterborough station around 1130, LNER Azumas occupying several platforms with a Lumo 803 stood on the up fast through road. Platform staff telling passengers nothing would be moving north for quite some time due to overhead wire issues between Peterborough and Grantham. Walked over to platform 7 for the first Birmingham of the day which arrived on time, albeit full and standing on departure.
Journey time to Oakham of over 90 minutes due to having to stop multiple times so (according to the guard) the driver could clear debris from the track, and a maximum speed of around 20mph as far as Manton from where normal line speed was resumed. Passengers at all 3 of Stamford, Oakham and Melton Mowbray left behind due to the overcrowding. Arrived Leicester about 80 late, having also discovered by then that the train would terminate at Nuneaton.
Fairly uneventful run from Leicester to Sheffield via Toton, most EMR Intercity services I saw were double 222's but still had many standees. Upon arrival at Sheffield the train I had arrived on formed the 1552 back to London as booked, and departed ahead of the 1452 which, due to awaiting crew I believe, departed over an hour late just behind it and very overcrowded. One thing I thought odd was, despite the chaos the ECML was in, EMR were advising London passengers to travel via Doncaster due to an issue at or near Kettering.
Made it to Doncaster at 1640 just before the stampede of mid to late morning LNER departures from London finally began to arrive. First was 91119 around 4 hours late on the 1103 King's Cross to Leeds, which was diverted to York due to issues on the Leeds line. Next was 801208 on an Edinburgh service, which for some reason took several minutes to open its doors leading to much shouting and frustration from passengers both onboard and trying to board. A pair of 5-car units then arrived on another Edinburgh meaning they'll be out of position for the start of service on Monday, then a fairly packed 801229 arrived on the 1003 King's Cross to Edinburgh which terminated in platform 8. I caught the tail end of an announcement advising this would form an additional back to London at 1736, so abandoned the chaos on platforms 1 and 3 and had the rear 3 coaches to myself back to Peterborough.
Above is just a snapshot of a few bits I witnessed - not to mention the issues out of Waterloo, Marylebone, Paddington and of course the terrible accident near Salisbury tonight.
All in all a very bad day indeed, and another hammer blow for the railway which, despite many of the circumstances being outwith its control, will doubtless have lost many more to their cars and the motorways moving forward.
Think, if you were at home watching match of the day would you come out in this weather to drive a bus.Is there no contingency to have some buses running in situations like this? For the whole of the WCML to be screwed it's not enough to say just get a hotel.
Tomorrow will be a nightmare as well.
Their customer communication channels are blaming ‘a shortage of traincrew’ for today’s alterations, whereas surely the reason should go back to the root cause: ‘severe weather yesterday’ would fit the bill.The 2 x 5 cars out of place, finished ay Heaton, are planned to work 3Y11 to Peterborough, then 1Y11 Peterborough to Kings Cross, where they switch back to diagram.
Lner recovered quite good for today with 1S00 cancelled, 1E01 starts Newcastle, 1A12 starts Doncaster, 1E13 starts Edinburgh. 1Y11 starts Peterborough. All due to crew being over hours from yesterday.