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VTEC Weekend First Price Hike?

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This morning I tried to buy the 'festive 1st' upgrade on VTEC from Hull to London (the extended weekend first scheme in place over Christmas). Back in East Coast days this always used to be £15 one way (in line with the price for Doncaster), but on trying to buy this today I was told firmly it would be £25.

This is consistent neither with the VTEC website, which states that a 'longer' journey (£25) is "going to or from York, Wakefield or beyond" (Hull doesn't fit into this category so you would anticipate being a 'shorter' journey, which is £15), nor NRE (which, as we all know, is supposed to be the 'definitive source' of information). This states that the Hull journey falls into "Zone 2 - London/Stevenage Hull/Brough/Selby and all stations south of York and Wakefield £20.00".

I honestly don't mind if Virgin have put the price up (though would question the logic when Hull Trains seem to have total control of the Hull/Brough/Selby-London market thesedays), but what I do mind is that the information for passengers is as clear as mud. Would it really be difficult to state that stations north of Doncaster would incur a charge of £25? The current wording on the website seems to be almost deliberately written to exclude Hull from the higher price tier (and I would argue that Selby is categorically not beyond York but the implication from staff was that this would also be £25!). Does anybody know when the price was hiked? What's even more irritating is that the staff were adamant that the price has always been £25 beyond Doncaster, but I know for a fact that this wasn't the case a while ago.
 
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Presumably the difference is nothing to do with direct v Doncaster change?
 

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I believe that the guard was in the wrong on this, and the charge is the same as Doncaster. The way it is currently structured means that some staff confuse themselves by trying to simplify, overlooking the one train that defies the 'north of Doncaster' rule.
 

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I believe that the guard was in the wrong on this, and the charge is the same as Doncaster. The way it is currently structured means that some staff confuse themselves by trying to simplify, overlooking the one train that defies the 'north of Doncaster' rule.

Indeed, I believe that the current wording on the website is deliberately written to exclude the Hull service from the higher tier (otherwise it would say north of Doncaster). Perhaps this is worth a letter to Virgin, as it may be that staff have been overcharging people for some time.
 

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Wouldn't it be a bit more straightforward if VTEC actually put the full info on their website?
 

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Wouldn't it be a bit more straightforward if VTEC actually put the full info on their website?
I don't see anything ambiguous about "going to or from York, Wakefield or beyond". What do you feel is missing? Hull is not beyond York or Wakefield.
 

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I don't see anything ambiguous about "going to or from York, Wakefield or beyond". What do you feel is missing? Hull is not beyond York or Wakefield.
Because then, instead of debating the finer points of geography with whoever is selling the upgrade, you can point to the website and tell them to look.
 

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I don't see anything ambiguous about "going to or from York, Wakefield or beyond". What do you feel is missing? Hull is not beyond York or Wakefield.

The staff encountered by the OP apparently didn't see anything ambiguous about it either. In their view Hull is is a 'longer' route and beyond York or Wakefield.

The NRE wording (post #5) is much clearer.
 
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