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Voyager fails inside Severn Tunnel

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PHILIPE

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1M25 0700 Cardiff to Manchewter Picc this morning (9th) failed inside Severn Tunnel. Facts available to me are sketchy but it would appear 1V41 0642 Birmingham New St was terminated at Bristol Parkway to go and assist. Time was taken coupling up and ensuring the fault (unknown) was transmitted to the rescue train. Would have failed at approx 0730 and not cleared until 0959. GWR trains from South Wales to London Paddington were diverted via Gloucester and some GWR Regional trains passed it by using the reversible signalling facility.
 
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I racall a similar incident where a voyager failed jist outside reading, sent a second unit to rescue it which transferred the fault to that unit which needed a third unit to rescue that! Twas a fair few years ago...
 

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I racall a similar incident where a voyager failed jist outside reading, sent a second unit to rescue it which transferred the fault to that unit which needed a third unit to rescue that! Twas a fair few years ago...

Having 4 or 5 separate engines usually mean complete failures are very rare on Voyagers
 
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As long as it's not a software issue, of course.

Complete train failures are usually marked down to the computer saying no. Door interlock issues or safety system failures leading to brakes not releasing are very common faults for these new types of trains.
In all my years of maintenance I have yet to see total failure on more than one engine at a time and I'm talking 25 year old sprinters here!
 

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This lead to a rather interesting couple of hours for me yesterday!

I arrived at Newport station to see that the 09.15 Plymouth was still in platform four, and going nowhere. They then announced that a train had broken down in the tunnel and everything was on stop until it could be removed.

Following this, I was told by the conductor on the Plymouth train that the recovery train had gone to rescue it, but that it couldn't couple up to it, so they had had to send a fitter to look at the problem. Passengers for Bristol and the South West were told to get the London train (09.39), which would be diverted via Gloucester and change there.

So, we all went over to platform three and got on the London train. This was on time, and made good progress towards Severn Tunnel Junction. Just before we got there, a request for the train manger to contact the driver was heard, followed by another announcement saying that the tunnel was now clear and we'd be using it after all.

We were told to change at Bristol Parkway, which we did. Unfortunately, Parkway was absolute chaos, with trains everywhere and regular announcements being made asking us to move from one platform to another and back again - some of them were totally contradictory. I felt really sorry for the despatcher on platforms three / four - he confessed that he didn't know whether he was coming or going, as the situation had changed so many times!

Whilst we were moving from platform to platform, though, there was an example of British black humour at it's best. We'd been told to go to platform four, and then told to go back to the bridge and wait. So, having gone down the stairs to the platform and then been turned around to go back up them (meeting lots of people who were still coming down), a voice rang out (from behind me, so I don't know who the speaker was): "It's all Donald Trump's fault, this wouldn't have happened if Hillary Clinton had won!"!!

Anyway, we were told to get the Westbury train to Temple Meads and change there for Salisbury (which is where I was going). By this time, I'd missed the original train from Newport to Salisbury (09.44) and although I thought that I might be able to catch up with it at Temple Meads, this wasn't the case. I ended up getting what I thought would have been the 10.44 from Newport, although it looks as if it might have been cancelled from Cardiff as it started from Temple Meads.

Still, I did get to Salisbury - and onwards to my eventual destination, Andover - albeit an hour late, although I did have a spare hour there so I wasn't late getting to where I wanted to go. It was an interesting couple of hours, though!
 

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Having 4 or 5 separate engines usually mean complete failures are very rare on Voyagers
In this case, the (4 car) unit was running on only two engines. Loss of air noted as the reason for the failure.
--- old post above --- --- new post below ---
Time was taken coupling up and ensuring the fault (unknown) was transmitted to the rescue train.
Surely that should read "wasn't transmitted"?
 

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In this case, the (4 car) unit was running on only two engines. Loss of air noted as the reason for the failure.
--- old post above --- --- new post below ---

Surely that should read "wasn't transmitted"?

Yes , of course. Missed word out :oops::oops:
 

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In this case, the (4 car) unit was running on only two engines. Loss of air noted as the reason for the failure.
--- old post above --- --- new post below ---

Surely that should read "wasn't transmitted"?

Would the compressors normally be directly powered by the engines that had failed?
 
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Do Voyagers not have cross feeding across vehicles of the 415v?

On 180's, if one engine goes down, the adjacent vehicle (or one of the adjacent vehicles if intermediate vehicle) will cross feed 415v to power all of the 3 phase equipment inc compressors.
 

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An unforgiving place to fail that's for sure. Must have been rather claustrophobic and, I would imagine, rather fumey after a while.
 

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We were told to change at Bristol Parkway, which we did. Unfortunately, Parkway was absolute chaos, with trains everywhere and regular announcements being made asking us to move from one platform to another and back again - some of them were totally contradictory. I felt really sorry for the despatcher on platforms three / four - he confessed that he didn't know whether he was coming or going, as the situation had changed so many times!
Bristol Parkway is my local station, and the golden rules applying in the event of disruption are:

1. Ignore the recorded announcements and take advantage of RTT and other websites.

2. Remain on the footbridge unless you can see that the train you've been told to go for is approaching or in the platform.

3. In the event of no chance of any trains for ages, and its after 1130 go to the local pub, the Beaufort, to give them a chance to sort the chaos out.
 
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One of the centre car engines was isolated prior to the incident, then the second centre car engine failed in service rending no 400v supply to the compressors meaning there was no air supply. Second unit was sent to couple up to share main res air and boost it back to the depot.
 

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Bristol Parkway is my local station, and the golden rules applying in the event of disruption are:

1. Ignore the recorded announcements and take advantage of RTT and other websites.

2. Remain on the footbridge unless you can see that the train you've been told to go for is approaching or in the platform.

3. In the event of no chance of any trains for ages, and its after 1130 go to the local pub, the Beaufort, to give them a chance to sort the chaos out.

Thanks for this advice.

It's good, but for a couple of things:

1. I didn't have access to any of the web sites, so I was reliant on what I was told to do.

2. We were told to go to a platform, which is why we did.

3. Sadly, I didn't have time to go to the pub - and it wasn't after 11.30am anyway!!
 
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