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Visiting every station in britain

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harry42

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Hi, Yes I'm being serious.

  • Anywhere I can find a full list of NR stations?
  • I would include NR, the 5 heathrow but NOT london undeground, merseyrail or other light rail systems.
  • Would have to include island line and maybe isle of man?
  • How long/how much cost wise?
  • It is all very well zooming through every station at 125mph, but I want to see Britain! So, I WANT to alight at every station, spend about an hour or so in the area then back on again
  • I would take a picture of every station sign with a gnome or a teddy bear on top too!
  • Any really wierd, annoying stations? (I've hears Lympstone Commando can be annoying.)
  • Obviously stations on the far north line and stations with 1 train a week are going to be annoying! Any really isolated, unknown stations (E.g. Sugar Loaf?!
  • Any other hints, tips or comments welcome!

Planning for next year sometime hopefully!

Thankyou
 
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• I would include NR, the 5 heathrow but NOT london undeground, merseyrail or other light rail systems.
Merseyrail is part of National Rail. It's not light rail.

• Would have to include island line and maybe isle of man?
Island Line is a part of National Rail.

The only railways on the Isle of Man are narrow-gauge heritage operations.
 
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[*]It is all very well zooming through every station at 125mph, but I want to see Britain! So, I WANT to alight at every station, spend about an hour or so in the area then back on again

The Guardian cite 2,533 as the total number of National Rail stations included in footfall data. Assuming you spend an hour at every single one of them excluding travelling time, and you are travelling 24 hours a day, have you got a spare 105 days, or 3 months?
 

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Iif you want an hour on every station you could be looking at a 0600-2100 job just to do 10 stations on somewhere like the Blaenau Ffestiniog branch and getting on for a week to do north of Inverness and the Central Wales.
 
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Hi, Yes I'm being serious.

[*]Anywhere I can find a full list of NR stations?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UK_railway_stations_–_A
I would include NR, the 5 heathrow
Presumably you mean stations served by National Rail services.
but NOT london undeground merseyrail or other light rail systems.
Merseyrail is National Rail.

I am not sure what you mean by "other" light rail systems, as none of the systems you mention are light rail. Presumably you mean ANY light rail system is to be excluded?

In that case, the only National Rail service you are excluding is Stourbridge Town (if it's still operated by a PPM?)

Would have to include island line and maybe isle of man?
You are excluding Merseyrail but including lines on the Isle of Man?
How long/how much cost wise?
Cost could be anything, and there's also accommodation to consider.
It is all very well zooming through every station at 125mph
Not too sure about that! ;)
but I want to see Britain! So, I WANT to alight at every station, spend about an hour or so in the area then back on again
Excluding waits for trains that's around 25,000 hours at each location. In reality it's a lot more than that at stations with infrequent services, and the Scottish Highland areas could take weeks (months?)
I would take a picture of every station sign with a gnome or a teddy bear on top too!
Any really wierd, annoying stations? (I've hears Lympstone Commando can be annoying.)
I'm not sure if you can spend an hour there without attracting the attention of the navy.
Obviously stations on the far north line and stations with 1 train a week are going to be annoying! Any really isolated, unknown stations (E.g. Sugar Loaf?!
Well some lines you'll have to re-visit a week later, e.g. if you get off and spend an hour at Denton, and you'll have to re-visit to do Reddish South! (as well as getting a bus or walking somewhere) There are other places you may not want to spend an hour at too, but too numerous to mention (out of the 2500, you could easily list 500+).
Any other hints, tips or comments welcome!
One tip is that some stations can be used as 'out of station interchanges' (officially or unofficially) such as Williamwood to Clarkston, Purley Oaks to Sanderstead and many, many more. Having a bike increases the possibilities to even more.
Planning for next year sometime hopefully!

Thankyou
Sometime next year? more like most of it :lol:
 
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In that case, the only National Rail service you are excluding is Stalybridge Town (if it's still operated by a PPM?)

Yes, Stourbridge Town is still operated by the PPM. But the line itself is still heavy-rail, it's just that a light-rail vehicle is operating along it.
 

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In that case, the only National Rail service you are excluding is Stalybridge Town (if it's still operated by a PPM?)

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I'm not sure if you can spend an hour there without attracting the attention of the navy.

Ah yes, Stalybridge, that well-known town west of Birmingham ;) It is still 139s though, yes. Might as well do it for the sake of completeness, though 6 trains would come and go whilst the OP awaited his 60 minute minimum stay.

As for Lympstone Commando, agreed. OP - There are also a few more stations on the network with debatable privacy, especially if staying a long time and photting / loitering. One such is Redcar British Steel and another is IBM near Glasgow.
 

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Yes, Stourbridge Town is still operated by the PPM. But the line itself is still heavy-rail, it's just that a light-rail vehicle is operating along it.
If stations that are on heavy rail lines, but served by light-rail vehicles are included, then that would also result in stations on the Tyne & Wear Metro Sunderland extension to count (I think, even as far as South Hylton as I understand the extension was built to full Network Rail standards?).

If stations that are on lines served by National Rail services, but where no National Rail services call, then that would also result in the Wimbledon branch of the District Line being included.

So we really need to see the full definition!

So far a loose definition appears to be:

  • Stations served by National Rail services EXCEPT Merseyrail
  • Stations on the Isle of Man

Also, is NIR not included? It would seem odd to include the Isle of Man but exclude a part of the UK. (Though it's not the same now the Thumpers are gone :cry:)
 

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Unless he's got a load of free time and a lot of money, then I can't see this ever happening.

Above, I estimated that it would be about 3 months solid time just to spend an hour on each station, assuming you are teleporting between them! That works out at about 13 weeks which is, on a standard ALR, over £6k.
 

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For something like this, you should be counting stations if they are served by National Rail, end of, if that is the intention. Merseyrail is part of National Rail, Stourbridge Town is part of National Rail, and all of the Overground counts too - as does the Island Line. But things like the Tyne & Wear Metro do not unless you specify as much.

Excluding waits for trains that's around 25,000 hours at each location. In reality it's a lot more than that at stations with infrequent services, and the Scottish Highland areas could take weeks (months?)

Picking up on this point, it may be better to "skip-start" areas where service is limited. This would be boarding and alighting and then making your way to the next station by foot. If recording total network coverage is a concern, then simply the do whole line in one go on the return leg.

As for time? 25,000 hours sounds like a long time - and that's because it is. That's approaching three years.

Oh, and I hope you can afford lots of ALRs...
 

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I'm just wondering how we got from spending one hour at each location to 25,000 hours at each location.
 

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I have done over 1,110 stations excluding some I haven't accounted for yet (recent visits) but that includes everything in the Baker's, Light Rail included.

I find if you get so far, especially up to 1,000, you don't want to give it up or it's a wasted effort. Rome wasn't built in a day, so it does take time, and most people like me do it at a leisurely pace. It's taken me about 6-7 years to get where I'm at now, and it's been done through a number of ALR's, regional rovers and railtours that just happen to go to where I need (Llandrindod Wells for example was done on a Central Wales charter). My personal rule is to get off at the station and get on another train with a different headcode, OR step off/on the same train providing it's been there for a a reasonable long time (over 20-30 minutes at least)

I have done regional rovers specifically for station scratching like the Freedom of Severn & Solent, I plugged in the gaps between Weymouth and Southampton and now all I need is Hinton Admiral to complete Weymouth to Eastleigh.
SWT staff were quite intrigued of my expedition, one guard even offered to hold the train at Wareham, one of the stations I needed, for a couple of minutes so I could mark it off. Very helpful chap but I had to turn it down as it was against my rules. The plan was to get off at the next station I needed and double back on a different train to Wareham.

Most of the station scratching on busy sections is done by missing out each stop and doubling back to the one you didn't get off at. Doesn't always work when there are aren't even numbers.

Some stations on the Southern DaySave gave me quite a fair wait before the next train. This is a great opportunity to look around the station and find the local map to see where the hamlet/town is for a visit. These long stops are also worked in to include a refreshment stop so I'd go and find the nearest corner shop/supermarket.

Another tip is not to plan too much, especially the whole day. Work out through the timetable what stations you need and what connections there are to get back out. I often go to the furthest point on a section of track and work my way back. Some lines do have stations that are peak hours only, like Cooksbridge, so I'd aim for that first or aim to do it in the evening. Plan your stations in sections. Having a plan for the entire day is great, but when that train you rely on being on time comes in 45 minutes late and misses your connection to a station that has very little calls, it collapses into pieces and your day's plan has gone to bed.

The London area is of course very easy. In fact some areas are easier than they look. I used my smartphone on a Southeastern Travelcard station bash, and found quite a lot of lines that run close to other lines, and you can walk between two stations on two different lines that would save having to go to London Bridge or whatever just to come back on another line. It is worth having a look on the smartphone or local A-Z map and looking to see how close stations are and what route to take between the two.

I am actually leaving the Far North and Central Wales until last. These will probably be spread out over a lot of different bashes in the area. I have done Sugar Loaf but that was on a day return and was the only station I did that day, but is one less to do in the future, making it that bit easier. Wick/Georgmas/Thurso also done as I've completed the line, so I only need Scotscalder and stations before it to Inverness.

Places like Melksham have a very rare service each day, worst than what the Far North Line see's. If you got off at Melksham at 6am, you'd have to wait 12 hours before the next train! It's worth looking into local transport for stations like these, for instance you can get a train to Chippenham (every half hour) for the 234 bus (every hour) to Melksham and time it to meet the train at the station. I grew up in Melksham so I was pretty lucky to have it easy to scratch it off a million times!

Also remember to keep tabs on what you have done!! I've made the mistake once of not marking where I've been after a bash then I've lost the notes. Nothing worst than sitting there citing the entire bash going 'did I get off there? I seem to recall that station, but I can't remember if I was there'. So my 1,110 count isn't quite 100% as I've got missing stations, but to be fair it isn't that many (20 at most I'd say) and I've probably been to some of them again since anyway.
 

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Hmm. Obviously Mr Admin-type Guy made a typo and I didn't read it right. 25,000 hours is probably a reasonable estimate for how long something like this would take from start to finish, allowing for sleep,rest days, illness and who knows what else, but yes it should be nearer 2,500 hours - or 150,000 minutes.

EDIT: Plenty of good advice from Heart-of-Wessex. I definitely agree on the public transport point for some of the more limited stations such as Melksham as he points out - there are plenty of people on here who would be able to help (for an easy example, I could too could help with Melksham).
 
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In many cases with stations close together (eg Deal/Walmer, Dover Priory/Kearsney & many hundreds more), there'd be no point spending an hour at each, that would save a lot time.
 

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It's closer to 2500.

Which is funnily enough, exactly what I posted earlier in the topic! :)
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Hmm. Obviously Mr Admin-type Guy made a typo and I didn't read it right. 25,000 hours is probably a reasonable estimate for how long something like this would take from start to finish, allowing for sleep,rest days, illness and who knows what else, but yes it should be nearer 2,500 hours - or 150,000 minutes.

No, 2,500 hours is just the total of the hour spent at each station. It doesn't include sleep, rest days, illness or anything else.
 

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If I ever did this sort of thing, I would use the criteria 'Be on a train booked to call at the station', stopping at it, only allowing a pass through in the event of request stops. I would not require alighting at a station. I'd almost be tempted, should I ever acquire enough disposable income and time, to do it 'tube challenge style', as quickly as possible.
 

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Hi, Yes I'm being serious.

  • Anywhere I can find a full list of NR stations?
  • I would include NR, the 5 heathrow but NOT london undeground, merseyrail or other light rail systems.
  • Would have to include island line and maybe isle of man?
  • How long/how much cost wise?
  • It is all very well zooming through every station at 125mph, but I want to see Britain! So, I WANT to alight at every station, spend about an hour or so in the area then back on again
  • I would take a picture of every station sign with a gnome or a teddy bear on top too!
  • Any really wierd, annoying stations? (I've hears Lympstone Commando can be annoying.)
  • Obviously stations on the far north line and stations with 1 train a week are going to be annoying! Any really isolated, unknown stations (E.g. Sugar Loaf?!
  • Any other hints, tips or comments welcome!

Planning for next year sometime hopefully!

Thankyou

I think the above idea is quite unrealistic what with visiting every station and spending an hour there. That would just take ages! I believe you are around my age so you have school and you wouldn't even have time in the summer holidays and all the other half terms and end of term breaks unless that was all you did and even then you are pushing it for time. As for costing you would need a lot of ALR's so that would be £££££s.

There is a member on here (Gathursty?) who is doing something similar but I think he is doing it bit-by-bit or as he goes sort of thing (you'd have to ask him). If you really want to visit every station, I'd do it as you go (without just visiting for the purpose of going if you see what I mean) and then gradually over the months/years if you keep a track it will start to show! But your idea is a bit too ambitious ;). I mean I doubt you would want to spend an hour at some places like Berney arms or Corrour that are so remote and have infrequent train services. Also places like Ince and Elton and Lympstone Commando where the area is pretty restricted with security and guns. For some stations where the service is weekly/poor (but with road access) you could always use alternate transport, or get a parent to take you in the car, you don't have to go by train!

So to conclude, it would take months or even years, it would cost thousands, some stations are too remote to visit, some places you don't want to visit/spend an hour round (Ellesmere Port ;) ), infrequent services, it is unrealistic, you would probably get bored spending time at every station on the NR network, some places would leave you stranded in the event of delays, accommodation, some stations you can't get off and the whole idea is just generally too ambitious. :)
 

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Cletus does have a very good point I missed out. I remember doing the Valleys on the Coryton branch and did two stations whilst it went to Coryton and back. I got off at Birchgrove and walked back to Ty Glas. It was so short it only took about 7 minutes to walk it.

Some aren't quite obvious on a rail map as it might look like it's 5 miles between stations when in actual fact it's probably only half a mile away.
 

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Also why are we assuming that the only way it can be done is by buying a bunch of ALRs? It's definitely got to be possible to plan it around a series of local rangers and rovers, and period return tickets with unlimited breaks of journey, so that it's cheaper than just blowing £700 a fortnight.
 

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When you visit the Sussex stations, and indeed the Southern network itself....I strongly advise you to purchase one of Southern's daysaver tickets! :D
 
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but I want to see Britain! So, I WANT to alight at every station, spend about an hour or so in the area

If it wasn't for the word "alight" then it would surely be quicker to do this by not necessarily travelling by train all the time. Involving a bicycle or possibly scooter or even just driving to a series of stations would speed things up. Using a bicycle would certainly enable you to "see Britain".

So is the aim to "visit" every station in Britain (as per the title) or to travel to/from every station in Britain?
 

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If I was doing this (which I would love to do at some point!) I'd settle for stopping at each station.

I wouldn't, for example, fancy getting off at Altnabreac and having to wait for the next train personally!!
 

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Thankyou for all the advice.
I should've made it clearer: I will begin in 2014 then continue it over maybe even 10 years.

Cost: Rovers cover the majority of the network (thanks heart of Essex.)

Now I see an hour each there is a long time, so 20 minutes or something would be about right.

Steelworks, Commando and that unusual Scottish station-I may just hop on and off.

I will include Merseyrail, Island Line but NOT Isle of Man (Made up my mind now!)

Thanks all
 
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