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I haven't been paying that close attention but I feel like last week or two the Victoria line has had constant "minor delays", and today it's "severe delays" - all vaguely just "due to train cancellations". Is anyone able to shed some more light onto what's going on and how long it might stay this way (if it is a new phenomenon at all)?
 
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I haven't been paying that close attention but I feel like last week or two the Victoria line has had constant "minor delays", and today it's "severe delays" - all vaguely just "due to train cancellations". Is anyone able to shed some more light onto what's going on and how long it might stay this way (if it is a new phenomenon at all)?

Half term week, probably.
 

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"Train cancellations" is a euphemism for "lack of staff member(s)", in order to avoid abuse toward other staff members.
 

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Is it time to recognise that people will take holidays - drivers will take leave and simultaneously demand is weaker - and run and publish a holiday timetable?
 

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Is it time to recognise that people will take holidays - drivers will take leave and simultaneously demand is weaker - and run and publish a holiday timetable?
I can't speak to the Victoria Line, but the Piccadilly Line seems much busier on school holidays.

Drivers do take leave, but the rosters have 'leave cover' weeks to accommodate this so a consistent timetable can be covered.

Don't want to speak for @bramling, but perhaps he was hinting that driver sickness levels may increase over half term?
 

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Leave is also rostered. LU Drivers cannot simply book leave for any week, they have to take the weeks allocated to them. No more leave leave weeks will be allocated during school holidays than at other times. Drivers would need to swap with colleagues to get more leave during school holidays. This means that the number of drivers on a leave cover should equal the number of drivers on leave. There are processes for special or emergency leave and those would have to be covered by spare or non-rota 'pool' drivers.
 

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Will be interesting how may Train op vacancies there are at present & whether recruiting & training is in progress
 

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Will be interesting how may Train op vacancies there are at present & whether recruiting & training is in progress
I can help you out with the training part of your question. All depots have noticeboards with lists of Instructor Operators (who teach new drivers, amongst other duties) and their associated trainee alongside, and which week the trainee is currently on.

Here is the cut down version for the Piccadilly Line. IMG_20251108_074316.jpg
I've edited out the names, but essentially the instructor's name would be on the left, and trainee's name on the right. So for our purposes, the first column is the intended depot the trainee will be working at (Arnos Grove, Northfields, Cockfosters, or Northfields), the second column is the current week of training for the trainee, and the third column is the length of training - which is always 14 weeks for new trainees. You can see a couple of 10 week training periods, these are cross transfer train operators from another line.
It's not indicated here, but training often overruns well past 14 weeks and you would then see a second column figure higher than the expected 14 weeks - this could be for any number of reasons, stock availability, instructor availability, personal issues, slow learning, etc.

For completeness, the "LIV..." you can see at the top right in the fourth column is "Live SPAD Training!" and there shouldn't ever be a week 9 trainee as that is an annual leave week.
 

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Thanks, I assume the picc are increasing train op head count associated with transition to new trains - seems like the central line not doing this !?
 

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Thanks, I assume the picc are increasing train op head count associated with transition to new trains - seems like the central line not doing this !?
I'm not sure that's happening yet; when the time comes, I understand that newly qualified train ops to the Piccadilly Line will be put into a 'Project Pool' specifically for the stock changeover period and none of the current trainees are going into any pool. After the changeover is complete, the project pool can be dispersed to other lines.
 

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I use the Victoria line for my daily commute and it seems more or less the same as usual.
 
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