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Various London Unit/Passenger Questions

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Bigchris

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Morning everyone,

I'm trying to find some details on particular passenger workings around London so thought this was a good place to start. In a couple of weeks I'm having a very rare trip down to London for 4 days, I've only been down once in the last 6 years so there's plenty of new(ish) plastic units for me to see amongst the freight spots I have planned. I apologise if these questions appear very basic but if you don't get down to London very often it's all very new and I don't want to waste time going to places of little interest. If anybody could answer any of the following I'd really appreciate it.

* What routes do the 377/5s & 377/6s work now? I thought I might have seen some at London Bridge when I passed through in April but there didn't appear to be any about.

* Are there any routes other than in/out of Liverpool St for the 379s? I spent a few hours in the evening peak at Bethnal Green but saw less than half of them.

* I understand that the Gospel Oak-Barking line is closed for electrification work until 20th October even though The Trainline is showing the line open as usual for passenger services. I'm after 172008 so would anybody know where it is likely to be, or if it's parked up in a depot somewhere, is it visible?

* Can you get onto the platform at Stratford International with an All Zone Travelcard to see the 395s? St Pancras doesn't appear to be accessible unless you have a full ticket to travel so you can't get the 2nd unit when there are 2 in each platform.

* With the 5 timetabled Chiltern class 68 loco hauls leaving Marylebone in the evening peak, is there a 6th loco parked up at Wembley as a spare?

If anybody could shed any light on the above it would be a great help :D
 
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1 - Some of the 377/5s are now with South Eastern, no longer on Thameslink services. 377/6s tend to work Southern Metro services

2 - 379s only work towards Cambridge & Stansted, best time is peak time with a few triple units which do one trip each way

3 - if Goblin is closed the 172s will be at Willesden Depot, some will be visible from passing services and you might get lucky

4 - Stratford International is out of the zones for travelcards

5 - no idea I'm afraid
 

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as kite says above your best bet for seeing 172008 is passing willesden depot on a london overground or bakerloo line train as thats where the 172s are stabled on the depot next to the dc lines it might not be on view though as there all probably on the depot just now
 
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Thanks very much for the info so far. So....

*Best bet now for 377/5s & 377/6s looks like it should be London Bridge or Victoria (although East Croydon may be slightly more "interesting" as I'm not after any of the older units).

*For 379s it will be another trip to Bethnal Green.

*No doubt I'll get to Willesden Junction at some point over the 4 days so I'll see what's around the depot (never seen a 172 there before).

*Probably won't spend much time chasing 395s then, I'll pick off 2 or 3 at a time as and when I'm around St Pancras.

*And Chiltern 68s: no harm in a run out past Wembley after the evening peak anyway, might pick off a unit or 2 that hasn't been in use that day.

Thanks again for the info, I think I might have a plan coming together
 
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Clapham Junction for the 377/6s shifting over to London Bridge. If you just want them for sight (also might allow you to pick up any 377/7s on West London Line services)

Just remember if doing spotting, a travelcard will be easier, that way you won't run into maximum journey times with Oyster.
 

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Yeah, thanks for the advice, already aware of the potential issues with Oyster as I tend to spend at least a couple of hours on a station if I'm doing a rush hour
 

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the 172s can only usually be seen from services on the dc lines cant be seen by services on the wcml and you need to make sure you take chiltern services that pass through wembley stadium to see whats on the depot as the line branches of before the depot from marylebone.
 

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OK thanks. I've spent quite a bit of time around Willesden going back a few years so I know what I'm doing on that side, not so familiar with the Chiltern line though but I've been past the depot once before I think (in the dark)
 
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