Using tramlink replacement bus.

[londonbridge]

Currently at Lloyd Park waiting for the replacement bus as there are no trams. Do I tap the reader on the tram platform before getting on the bus or what are you supposed to do in this situation?

 

[Gaelan]

I'll let people more knowledgeable give a proper answer, but my thinking is that you might as well tap in on the platform; if you're asked to tap again on the bus, Bus Hopper means you won't pay any more.

 

[Flying Snail]

Do TfL Rail Replacement of any mode ever use on-bus validation?

I'd be surprised if they did considering the amount of extra work needed to correctly program the machines and then the need for all RR buses to have TfL ticket machines.

 

[londonbridge]

When the bus arrived, the driver said you don’t need to tap. He also went directly to East Croydon without taking in Sandilands or Lebanon Road.

 

[JonathanH]

When the bus arrived, the driver said you don’t need to tap.

It isn't the role of the driver to protect revenue. Why should a replacement bus for a tram be considered to be free? It still gets you from point to point. It certainly seems to make sense to tap on the reader on the platform.

 

[flythetube]

Do TfL Rail Replacement of any mode ever use on-bus validation?

I'd be surprised if they did considering the amount of extra work needed to correctly program the machines and then the need for all RR buses to have TfL ticket machines.

There had been some experimentation on tapping in on Rail Replacement Buses on those on the Bakerloo Line Blockade, Routes 718 & 719 and on the District Line Earls Court - Olympia shuttles.

I don’t know the success or otherwise of these although some Bakerloo Customers were complaining that their journeys in some instances were costing more than the tube fare as a result.

 

[blueberry11]

The price for the bus and the tram are the same so surely, just tap on the bus like you usually do?

 

[JonathanH]

The price for the bus and the tram are the same so surely, just tap on the bus like you usually do?

The reader on the bus may not be switched on, or they may use a non-TfL bus.

 

[londonbridge]

Thanks for responses, I was travelling on by bus so there was no revenue loss in my case but I wonder how much was lost to people only making the one tram journey or travelling on by train. The question was an attempt to establish if there’s an official policy that’s meant to be followed.

 

[Haywain]

I wonder how much was lost to people only making the one tram journey or travelling on by train

Probably a trivial amount in the grand scheme of things.

The question was an attempt to establish if there’s an official policy that’s meant to be followed.

The official policy is that as a passenger you should be paying for your journey.

 

[Trackman]

Do TfL Rail Replacement of any mode ever use on-bus validation?

I'd be surprised if they did considering the amount of extra work needed to correctly program the machines and then the need for all RR buses to have TfL ticket machines.

I had a think about this, there are all sorts of issues regarding this, I wouldn't know where to start.

Been on RRB's in London where I needed to tap in, was advised not to do so at the station.
Also been on RRB's outside of London and it's been a full ticket check.

 

[londonbridge]

Probably a trivial amount in the grand scheme of things.

The official policy is that as a passenger you should be paying for your journey.

In which case, why don’t TFL publicise it with signs on the tram platform saying that you must tap in on the platform reader before boarding the bus, rather than just assuming people will do so? That way there’s no confusion and people can’t argue that it’s unclear as to what they’re supposed to do.

 

[Benjwri]

Often r

The official policy is that as a passenger you should be paying for your journey.

Often hard to do though. At least on the Tube it isn’t really possibly to tap ,( even if the station itself isn’t closed), and as bus drivers always tell you not to how should you pay?