Unusual locos on tours

[The Snap]

The AC Loco group has got a fair few locos which are relatively old and having been used on the mainline for decades, such as the class 81/82/83/84 and 89.
Now, as far as I can gather, most of these are due to return to the mainline at some point, particularly 89001.

using 89001 as an example, the loco would be used on tours; tours which are operated by a tour company and a TOC/FOC for the loco.

Hence, my question is: Are there any drivers passed out on the loco?? If they're are, I doubt they'll be at an TOC/FOC that runs tours (such as EWS or WCRC). So, who drives the train? Would driver have to be drafted in from wherever they work because they are one of very few who can drive the loco? :-?

Ta,

 

[hairyhandedfool]

A driver can be conducted over a route by another person who has route knowledge unless that person has traction knowledge of train. So provided ACLG has staff trained on them there is no problem from that aspect.

 

[The Snap]

So someone from the ACLG who can drive them at Barrow Hill, but not mainline, can instruct a mainline driver who has knowledge of the route how to drive the loco?

Makes sense. Thanks for that.

 

[class 313]

So someone from the ACLG who can drive them at Barrow Hill, but not mainline, can instruct a mainline driver who has knowledge of the route how to drive the loco?

Makes sense. Thanks for that.

I think its the mainline driver instructing the driver that knows 89001.

 

[The Snap]

I think its the mainline driver instructing the driver that knows 89001.

Oh I see. That would also make sense.

 

[33056]

If the rules are still the same as a few years ago, then the TOC / FOC driver must be "passed out" to drive the specific loco type. There might be certain relaxations on fault finding knowledge as the loco is usually accompanied by an owners representative.

If the driver passed out to drive the traction type does not sign the route, then (s)he can be route conducted by another TOC / FOC driver who does. I do stand to be corrected on the above as it is a few years now since I dealt with traincrew matters.

 

[Pumbaa]

If the rules are still the same as a few years ago, then the TOC / FOC driver must be "passed out" to drive the specific loco type. There might be certain relaxations on fault finding knowledge as the loco is usually accompanied by an owners representative.

If the driver passed out to drive the traction type does not sign the route, then (s)he can be route conducted by another TOC / FOC driver who does. I do stand to be corrected on the above as it is a few years now since I dealt with traincrew matters.

Yes that is the case, as will happen on the Virgin blockade runner, and does happen at other times for engineering works all over the shop. Some railtours also using heritage stock maybe will have the driver who has the traction on his TC driving, whilst being route conducted by a senior driver from a TOC/FOC who knows the route. I don't think it can be any driver - it has to be someone senior-ish I think... :-?