Unpaid fare notice Help

[221129]

Its ok ill sort it on monday and dont worry about the hypothetical its sorta interesting now i know im not being prosecuted

 

[brillopad]

yeah i just feel so stupid as i must have lost it from the barriers to the train

Easily done - I boarded a train with no railcard after emptying my pockets of 'stuff' into a bin - still had the ticket though.

Marvelous staff emptied all the bins and returned my railcard on my next visit.

 

[GadgetMan]

As it is a XC UFN, you have 21 days to pay, and it can be done over the phone, on the Internet or via post. All three methods are explained on the back of the (white copy) notice you were given.

 

[Donny Dave]

I'm no expert on law, so what I say here will possibly contain an error ....

It's my understanding that debts accrued by people under the age of 18 are not enforcable. However, those debts can stay on file, and once a person reaches their 18th birthday, they can then be invoiced for the full amount.

There is some advice on this page, but it seems to be as clear as mud. I'll quote the relevent parts anyway.

As a child or young person, you cannot normally be taken to court for debt. This is because you cannot be legally held to a contract you make when you are under 18.

As a parent you are not usually under any obligation to pay the debts of your child. However, if you acted as a guarantor for a contract they entered into, you will be responsible for any debts under the agreement.

I'm not sure if this applies to the railways though.

 

[GadgetMan]

I'm no expert on law, so what I say here will possibly contain an error ....

It's my understanding that debts accrued by people under the age of 18 are not enforcable. However, those debts can stay on file, and once a person reaches their 18th birthday, they can then be invoiced for the full amount.

There is some advice on this page, but it seems to be as clear as mud. I'll quote the relevent parts anyway.



I'm not sure if this applies to the railways though.

As a guard I'm not too bothered whether a UFN to a minor is enforceable or not. The bottom line is, if a child is issued with one and it does not get paid, then the next time they are involved in ticketless travel and a call to IRCAS is required, which will reveal the previous UFN and the fact it hasn't been paid. The child will be dealt with more severely with BTP getting called in where possible.

Same applies to adults, the type of people who usually get a UFN and don't pay up have a habit of bringing attention onto themselves on a regular basis. What they fail to realise is that they are building a case for prosecution against themselves.

 

[221129]

Well so we all know it was paid online this morning thanks for all the advice