UK General Election 2024: The Results & Aftermath

[edwin_m]

Easier said than done, for the second part at least!

But if you're suggesting reducing legal immigration because immigrants will work for illegal wages, then they will just become illegal immigrants.

 

[brad465]

Sorry to sound like a back seat admin, but what is the plan for political discussion threads from here? The election has clearly passed, government business is underway and the Tory party leadership election is about to begin, which will all be new discussions.

 

[Magdalia]

Sorry to sound like a back seat admin, but what is the plan for political discussion threads from here? The election has clearly passed, government business is underway and the Tory party leadership election is about to begin, which will all be new discussions.

I think it has been good to run the aftermath through to the summer recess, a point that we have now reached.

 

[Gloster]

Maybe we should have a thread about the Conservative Party leadership election as they tear themselves apart. And one about the Labour Party as they tear themselves apart, which they are liable to do anyway. And one about the SNP as they…

 

[brad465]

And one about the SNP as they…

They are now so small the only way they're tearing themselves apart is with the Large Hadron Collider.

 

[Norm_D_Ploom]

Of course the market could have been managed if the Blair government had stemmed the flow of Eastern European workers, as other countries in the EU did, but he chose to fling the doors open and flood the country. To this day the left generally deny that this influx depressed wages for working class people despite the obvious truth.

The last part is true and directly led to the way people voted during the Brexit referendum

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Starmer has just chucked a massive tank of petrol onto the fire with that presser

 

[Busaholic]

Maybe we should have a thread about the Conservative Party leadership election as they tear themselves apart. And one about the Labour Party as they tear themselves apart, which they are liable to do anyway. And one about the SNP as they…

Last but by no means least, the Reform Party, its allies and its leader in particular as they attempt to tear the UK apart. I'm deadly serious about that.

 

[nw1]

Last but by no means least, the Reform Party, its allies and its leader in particular as they attempt to tear the UK apart. I'm deadly serious about that.

Indeed. Many people seem to give Farage leeway because he's English and therefore "must be OK", unlike, say, Trump.

He is not. He is, in my opinion, a far-right extremist who lives off promoting hate. Not to mention a fraud who "claims to speak for the working class" despite his very privileged upbringing.

"I just wonder whether the truth is being withheld from us”, indeed. That comment alone shows what a repulsive, revolting and thoroughly nasty piece of work he is.
He is at least as bad as Trump, if not worse, because - perhaps unlike Trump - it seems to me that he actually believes in far-right nonsense, rather than merely using it as a route to power.

And he's significantly younger than Trump of course, which makes him potentially much more dangerous.

The sooner Reform UK is flushed down the toilet of history where it belongs, the better. A truly repulsive organisation.

 

[Yew]

To this day the left generally deny that this influx depressed wages for working class people despite the obvious truth.

I could perhaps understand this point of view if the types of industries we have now were the same as 40 years ago, but I feel that the main driver that is causing lots of places to struggle is the loss of skilled jobs in Factories, Mines, and Mills. These workplaces have largely closed, and the remaining working-class roles have been replaced by lower-skilled and lower-paid jobs in warehouses and the service sector.

 

[takno]

Indeed. Many people seem to give Farage leeway because he's English and therefore "must be OK", unlike, say, Trump.

He is not. He is, in my opinion, a far-right extremist who lives off promoting hate. Not to mention a fraud who "claims to speak for the working class" despite his very privileged upbringing.

"I just wonder whether the truth is being withheld from us”, indeed. That comment alone shows what a repulsive, revolting and thoroughly nasty piece of work he is.
He is at least as bad as Trump, if not worse, because - perhaps unlike Trump - it seems to me that he actually believes in far-right nonsense, rather than merely using it as a route to power.

And he's significantly younger than Trump of course, which makes him potentially much more dangerous.

The sooner Reform UK is flushed down the toilet of history where it belongs, the better. A truly repulsive organisation.

It's a ridiculous statement really "the truth is being withheld from us". That's what due process is - the "truth" is withheld for a few days while it is verified to reasonable extent and preparations are made to protect the innocent (and the guilty) from angry lynch mobs.

I wonder if he sits looking at the presents under his tree at christmas demanding to know what they are, and angrily declaring to his nearest and dearest (if applicable) that "the truth is being withheld from me"

 

[birchesgreen]

Didn't he go on about questions not being answered on his GBN show on the same day he could have (but didn't) attend the Commons where he could have questioned the minister directly?

 

[brad465]

This has to be the best way to insult a former PM: interview her without realising who she really is:

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This is incredible in several ways, not least of which that I don't think there is another former PM that could go entirely unrecognised through an interview. But also - mainly - because it results in the BEST IMPROVISED PUT DOWN/SEGUE EVER on television.

Video attached

(Also, I would watch until the end where the guy in the studio says a belter of a pun)

 

[SuspectUsual]

This has to be the best way to insult a former PM: interview her without realising who she really is:

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(Also, I would watch until the end where the guy in the studio says a belter of a pun)

Excellent

And she just stands there with that gormless look on her face.

 

[birchesgreen]

She was expecting a question but was kept waiting, like a giant hungry fish.

 

[brad465]

Excellent

And she just stands there with that gormless look on her face.

Yes that's exactly how you deal with attention seekers, completely ignore them (although quite how Truss thinks she's doing herself any good trying to stay in the spotlight).

 

[Busaholic]

Yes that's exactly how you deal with attention seekers, completely ignore them (although quite how Truss thinks she's doing herself any good trying to stay in the spotlight).

If she were a moth, would she be an Isabella Tiger,a Southern Flannel or a Luna?

 

[weeklycommuter]

Minimum service levels in the bin

Labour axes ‘gimmick’ anti-strike law as it plans major reset for workers’ rights

Memo tells ministers to disregard minimum service levels rules, as part of reforms to reorder industrial relations

www.theguardian.com

 

[Busaholic]

Minimum service levels in the bin

Quite right too, and plainly unworkable anyway.

 

[Snow1964]

Minimum service levels in the bin

Here is formal government announcement

Public services “back on track” as Strikes Act to be repealed

The government has today announced it will repeal the Strikes Act 2023 to get public services back on track and strengthen the rights of working people.

www.gov.uk

 

[Thirteen]

TBH most employers and local Governments have simply ignored it.

 

[Cowley]

Time to wrap things up in this thread and have separate topics for each party again we feel. There’s two below for starters and thanks for contributing to the lively 40 pages worth in this one!

The Labour Party under Andy Burnham

Now that the election is done and dusted it’s time for a dedicated thread on the government as we’ve previously had. If anyone wants to get the ball rolling on how they feel the first few weeks have gone then feel free. :)

www.railforums.co.uk

2024 Conservative Leadership Election

After the Conservatives lost a record 251 seats at last month's General Election under Rishi Sunak, who do you think will do the best to fix the Conservative Party?

www.railforums.co.uk