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Twickenham to tonbridge and return

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Good afternoon

I am staying at Isleworth, the nearest station is Twickenham and will be working in Tonbridge.

I need to arrive by 08:30.

I have an enquiry regarding the use of a network railcard, as it is restricted before 10:00. Can anyone suggest the best route to go with a Network Railcard?
 
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Any easement on the Network Railcard applies to stations some distance from London, and won't help with an early journey from Twickenham to Tonbridge.

What, however, you can do is start your journey on Contactless before 0630, travel to Sevenoaks, then use a full price 'paper' ticket (or e-ticket) fron there to Tonbridge. You would need to leave the train at Sevenoaks, and catch the next one having touched out on the barriers.

On the return journey you may be able to discount a through ticket using the Network Railcard.
 

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The Network Railcard cannot be used (much) before 10:00; there are a few journeys when it can be started before 10:00, where it would otherwise be unreasonable to restrict the use of the railcard to 10:00 (e.g. 09:20 from Weymouth to London) and the final arrival time into London is going to be a long time after the morning rush has ended.

Any easement on the Network Railcard applies to stations some distance from London, and won't help with an early journey from Twickenham to Tonbridge.

What, however, you can do is start your journey on Contactless before 0630, travel to Sevenoaks, then use a full price 'paper' ticket (or e-ticket) fron there to Tonbridge. You would need to leave the train at Sevenoaks, and catch the next one having touched out on the barriers.
Yes, this would work to "step back" a train at Sevenoaks.

Alternatively, it's £37.30 for a day return valid via London Waterloo, which is the most straightforward option.

If you want to travel via London Waterloo as quickly as possible on the outward portion, but don't mind the slower option via Redhill on the return, it may be cheaper not to buy a return and instead to buy singles each way, using the Railcard on the return portion. (It may be even cheaper to further split this down by using Contactless for part of the journey), but the saving would not be much, so it's probably not worth it.
On the return journey you may be able to discount a through ticket using the Network Railcard.
Yes, it would be £13.05, if avoiding Waterloo and changing at Redhill, or £16.70 via London Waterloo, for a single from Tonbridge to Twickenham, with the Railcard discount.
 
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Yes, it would be £13.05, if avoiding Waterloo and changing at Redhill
Given the 'Not via London' anytime day return is £25.80, using a full price single in the morning and a Network Railcard discounted ticket for the evening journey doesn't work out cheaper, if going via Redhill both ways.

Before 0630, Twickenham to Sevenoaks single on Contactless is £10. The onward anytime day single from Sevenoaks to Tonbridge is £6.10, so there is a potential saving possible at the cost of stepping back a train at Sevenoaks, and combining it with the £16.70 discounted single you mention on the way back, but the original poster may not want that inconvenience.

If you want to travel via London Waterloo as quickly as possible on the outward portion, but don't mind the slower option via Redhill on the return, it may be cheaper not to buy a return and instead to buy singles each way, using the Railcard on the return portion.
Unfortunately, it isn't cheaper, as £25.10 outward plus £13.05 back comes to £38.15.

Hitting the connections at Clapham Junction and Redhill for an 0830 start, which probably needs the passenger to leave Redhill at 0722 seems fraught with concern over whether they will be made reliably.

A journey changing at Clapham Junction, Denmark Hill and Orpington seems possible, also 'not via London', but takes longer
https://tickets.railforums.co.uk/re...e&adv:ob:Avoid=7055980P&adv:ib:Avoid=7055980P
 
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