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robbeech

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I’m interested in people’s views on default options for ticket machines particularly at times of day / days of the week where certain ticket types are not required.

The other week I was behind someone in the queue for the TVM at Worksop and they were purchasing 2 Day returns to Sheffield, one of the most popular tickets from there no doubt. i overheard them questioning the price with each other and deciding that it must just be more expensive to buy it from the machine. I helped them find the Off Peak Day return which involved typing in Sheffield from the ‘other destinations list’ and then selecting the ticket type. This all seemed counterintuitive and this made me wonder if machines should be a little more customer friendly in this respect.

The list of ‘popular destinations’ has the anytime day return on it but not the off peak day return. Would it not make more sense to show the anytime day return until the time when the off peak day return becomes valid? There are no evening peak restrictions on that flow so anyone boarding the 0908 or later can purchase the off peak ticket. Likewise at the weekend, why would the machine even offer the anytime day return as there is simply no need for it. I’m not suggesting that the TOC (Northern in this case) is deliberately programming it like this to make more money though I’m sure many people would suggest that. I think it’s likely a case of ‘that is just how it is’or a mere oversight. It’s not limited to this TOC of course, just using it as a known local example.

I am specifically talking about Day returns here.
 
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If they are the Scheidt & Bachmann TVMs then the list at the first screen is the most popular ticket sold from that machine
 

robbeech

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Does this update itself automatically then? That would explain the reason for it being that way, though I’m fairly sure there will be more CDR sold than SDR from the machines there. Trains are busy in the morning but most are season tickets or they go to the ticket office or buy on board (or rather don’t)

They’re those tall flat touch screen things. Horrible to use and mostly not working at the moment.
 

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Conversely last week I had a pop up which told me that an off peak ticket would be cheaper for the journey i was making even though it was valid at the time I was making it. Very odd but it may have been an error as didn't show up the next day.
 

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If they are the Scheidt & Bachmann TVMs then the list at the first screen is the most popular ticket sold from that machine
I find that well-programmed ones will automatically switch from showing anytime tickets on this screen to showing off-peak ones (for instance), but I can fully believe that others won't do this.
 

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so
I do think that feature of the S&B TVMs is a bit unhelpful, to me it would be better if it showed the most popular *destinations*.
manchester or any other city that he station was close too?
 
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