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Tunnels and highest point queries
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Yes these are on the MML from St Pancras to Leicester
Camden Road Tunnel
Lismore Circus Tunnel
Belsize Tunnel
Elstree Tunnel
Ampthill Tunnel
Knighton Tunnel (this one is also on the Leicester to Nuneaton Line)
Plus I think there is one at Sharnbrook on the Slow Lines
Camden Road Tunnel
Lismore Circus Tunnel
Belsize Tunnel
Elstree Tunnel
Ampthill Tunnel
Knighton Tunnel (this one is also on the Leicester to Nuneaton Line)
Plus I think there is one at Sharnbrook on the Slow Lines
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Good stuff. Clearly some of the tunnels on the Midland Main Line are longer than others.
Are you trying to avoid (or are apprehensive about) travelling through / stopping in tunnels?
Yeah trying to avoid. Going through tunnels always effects my ear pressure.
I have very sensitive ears.
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The xx15 Edinburgh to Glasgow Queen Street goes via Falkirk High, which includes the fairly lengthy Winchburgh Tunnel. Everything out of Edinburgh in both directions needs to use a tunnel of some sort, albeit at slow speeds. Edinburgh to Haymarket is mostly in tunnel.
Leeds to Edinburgh though, it'd just be the tunnel on the approach to Edinburgh IIRC.
Leeds to Edinburgh though, it'd just be the tunnel on the approach to Edinburgh IIRC.
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It is difficult to avoid tunnels on any of the direct routes between Edinburgh and Glasgow; There are two between Edinburgh Waverley and Haymarket! And leaving Edinburgh at the east end does not help because as @rg177 says there is the Calton Tunnel outside Waverley.
Ahh i know about the little one between Edinburgh and Haymarket but apart from that is the no more between Leeds and Edinburgh? And also do you know how long that tunnel is on the Glasgow route and Max speed though it ? Thank you so much h!
Falcon1200
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On the most direct route between Edinburgh Waverley and Glasgow Queen Street there are no fewer than five tunnels; The Mound, Haymarket, Winchburgh, Falkirk High and Queen Street.
I couldn't tell you about the max speed unfortunately - other than that it's fairly quick (I'm wagering near to 90-100mph).
Leeds to Edinburgh there aren't any others IIRC. There's a tunnel on the approach to Edinburgh from the south that you'd go through but at slow speed.
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Falkirk Tunnel is 95mph
SuperLuke2334
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I'm not sure of the highest point, but with regards tunnels, there is Sugar Loaf tunnel and there's a tunnel at Pontarddulais on the HOWL. I can't think of any between Crewe and Craven Arms or Chester and Craven Arms, although someone will have to confirm that. Not sure on lengths of the two I've mentioned either. Hope this helps!
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Sugar Loaf is the longer tunnel of the two there, although I don't have data for the length of the tunnels. I am sure that the summit of the climb up Sugar Loaf is in the tunnel itself. Pontarddulais' tunnel may feel like a long one due to the slow speed into the station which is very close to the tunnel.
No tunnels between Chester/Crewe and Swansea via Llandrindod that I'm aware of either. There's a short section just west of Chester which I think carries a big road over the top, so it may feel like a very short tunnel but it's a wide formation on the railway there so it shouldn't pose any major concern.
In terms of highest points, I think Llangynllo has a summit in that area too but I am relying on memory from possibly seeing it in a rail atlas many years ago. Talking of, I want to say there may be a very small tunnel up there too, I'm trying to remember what was where based on my memory of a Llandeilo to Craven Arms journey last year. Easier said than done as I was decaffeinated at the time! I'd not be surprised if there is a small tunnel up there, the line goes through a lot of big hills in that area.
No tunnels between Chester/Crewe and Swansea via Llandrindod that I'm aware of either. There's a short section just west of Chester which I think carries a big road over the top, so it may feel like a very short tunnel but it's a wide formation on the railway there so it shouldn't pose any major concern.
In terms of highest points, I think Llangynllo has a summit in that area too but I am relying on memory from possibly seeing it in a rail atlas many years ago. Talking of, I want to say there may be a very small tunnel up there too, I'm trying to remember what was where based on my memory of a Llandeilo to Craven Arms journey last year. Easier said than done as I was decaffeinated at the time! I'd not be surprised if there is a small tunnel up there, the line goes through a lot of big hills in that area.
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Depending on the precise route, think there's maybe seven tunnels between Chester/Crewe and Cardiff via the Heart of Wales line...
Starting from Chester, Christleton tunnel, between Chester and Crewe stations, is 160 yards.
Llangynllo tunnel, between Knucklas and Llangynllo stations is 647 yards long.
Pen-y-Bont tunnel, between Dolau and Pen-y-Bont stations is 404 yards.
There's also Llangammarch tunnel, between Garth and Llangammarch stations at just 56 yards.
Sugar Loaf tunnel, between Sugar Loaf and Cynghordy and stations is 1001 yards.
Pontarddulais tunnel, between Pontarddulais and Llangennech stations is 88 yards.
And Cockett tunnel, between Gowerton and Swansea stations is 788 yards long.
Summit of the Heart of Wales line is at Llangynllo Summit at 299 metres (980 feet) above sea level.
Second highest is immediately to the South of Sugar Loaf station, at 250 metres (820 feet) above sea level.
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Techniquest
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Well there we go, that's a really useful bit of information there. I always thought the summit was in the tunnel, thank you for the correction
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Llangynllo Summit is the highest point on the line at 299 metres (980 feet) above sea level. (Source: Wikipedia)
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I concur. Thanks for pointing out. Post #4 amended.
SuperLuke2334
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Hi, there are two tunnels as far as I can see. Chirk tunnel is 47m long, and Whitehurst tunnel, between Chirk and Ruabon, is 42m long. Hope that helps!
Copy Pit summit. 749ft according to Trackmaps.
That's 228 metres in modern measurements, so not particularly high really. But it is very scenic around that point, and quite slow in places.
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there are three tunnels between Carnforth and Barrow
Mcr Warrior
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Indeed.
Lindal tunnel (439 yards) between Ulverston and Dalton.
Dalton tunnel (225 yards) between Dalton and Roose.
Furness Abbey tunnel (76 yards) also between Dalton and Roose.
The high point on the relevant section(s) of line won't be particularly high as it tends to hug the coast. Just West of Dalton station heading for Dalton tunnel looks to be maybe about 150 feet (= 45 metres) above sea level.
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Some details about gradients and altitude here:
The Railway Data Centre | Line File CBC1
The Railway Data Centre is an independant provider British railway industry data in unique and different formats.
www.railwaydata.co.uk
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Thanks. Where should one be looking for the height / altitude data?Some details about gradients and altitude here:
The Railway Data Centre | Line File CBC1
The Railway Data Centre is an independant provider British railway industry data in unique and different formats.
Snow1964
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Not much north of Basingstoke, from memory just those around New Street and Tile Hill
South of Basingstoke, got some, Wallers Ash, Micheldever (2)(Popham)
Also tunnel at Southampton
South of Basingstoke, got some, Wallers Ash, Micheldever (2)(Popham)
Also tunnel at Southampton
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