Trivia: Stations more than 1 change away from London

[bradders1983]

Apologies if this has been done before

In the current timetable, which UK mainland stations are more than 1 change away from London, or to put it another way, require the use of 3 trains or more to get to any station with London in the title

Foot/bus interchanges across a town/city are classed as a change for this quiz (so might lead to quite a few from around Glasgow!).

Also included as a change are interchanges between high level/low level stations (such as Retford).

Ones I can think of:

- Reddish South/Denton (require a change at Guide Bridge for Manc Piccadily, or at Staylbridge for Leeds)
- Most stations on the line between Clitheroe and Bolton (except for Bolton and Blackburn) - require a change at Blackburn for Preston or Leeds, or a change at Salford Central for Manchester Piccadilly. Or a change at Bolton for Preston, I suppose!

Any more?

 

[mumrar]

It has been done before and the main one that sticks out from memory was Cardiff Bay.

 

[Lampshade]

Pwllheli.

 

[EltonRoad]

Pwllheli.

Don't mean to be pedantic, but looking at the ATW timetable, most of the Pwllheli services are shown as running through to/from Birmingham.

 

[Soupdragon]

Barton on Humber (or any station from Ulceby onwards)

 

[jamesontheroad]

Self-edit... whoops, was wrong there.

 

[bradders1983]

Are there any in the South East? Guessing there cant be many, if any.

 

[90019]

Was going to say anything on the West Highland line, but forgot about the sleepers.

 

[MCR247]

Sleeper?

 

[bradders1983]

Was going to say anything on the West Highland line, but forgot about the sleepers.

Plus they can connect onto an East Coast service at Inverness.

 

[90019]

Plus they can connect onto an East Coast service at Inverness.

The West Highland Line doesn't go to Inverness, you're thinking of the Far North Line and Highland Mainline Kyle Line

 

[bradders1983]

The West Highland Line doesn't go to Inverness, you're thinking of the Far North Line and Highland Mainline

I know, was just coming back to delete my error!

Was thinking of the Kyle of Lochalsh Line.

 

[scotsman]

I can't think of a single station in Scotland off the top of my head that can't reach London in > 1 change

 

[bradders1983]

I can't think of a single station in Scotland off the top of my head that can't reach London in > 1 change

Are there not any station that terminate into Glasgow QS and don't go anywhere at the other end that has a London service?

 

[scotsman]

Are there not any station that terminate into Glasgow QS and don't go anywhere at the other end that has a London service?

Nope...Cumbernauld line also has trains along to Falkirk Grahamston

 

[MCR247]

Stourbridge Town?

 

[MidnightFlyer]

Stourbridge Town?

There's early morning Chiltern Railways train from Kidderminster direct to Marylebone, which call at Junction, as well as return services in the evening.

 

[bradders1983]

Stourbridge Town?

Depends if Chiltern still run a peak service into London M or not from Stourbridge Junction.

 

[90019]

I can't think of a single station in Scotland off the top of my head that can't reach London in > 1 change

There's nothing I can think of around Edinburgh and none on the Fife Circle, none between Edinburgh and Glasgow, Aberdeen or Inverness either.
I think the WHL must be the closest with only the sleepers.

 

[bradders1983]

I guess Ashton under Lyne in Manchester qualifies.

To get to London, you would need to:

- change at Staylbridge for Leeds or Manchester Piccadilly
- change at Huddersfield for Wakefield Westgate or Leeds
- change at Manchester Victoria and cross the city to Manchester Piccadilly

Unless Grand Central use Huddersfield and I have missed that?

 

[richard1976]

reddish south

denton

 

[bradders1983]

reddish south

denton

Mentioned in the opening post.

 

[4SRKT]

I'm sure some Stalybridge > Manchester Victoria services go through to Liverpool, so if so Ashton can be reached from Euston by changing at Lime Street.

Do stations between Kirkby and Wigan Wallgate have any through services to Manchester Piccadilly, or do they all go to Victoria? If they all go to Victoria then I guess these places would be more than 1 change away (although in practice the walk from Wallgate to North Western is hardly longer than walking from one side of some large stations to the other).

 

[bradders1983]

I'm sure some Stalybridge > Manchester Victoria services go through to Liverpool, so if so Ashton can be reached from Euston by changing at Lime Street.

Bugger!

 

[4SRKT]

Stations beyond Nunthorpe on the Whitby line.

Ryde Pier Head, Ryde Esplanade, Ryde St Johns Road, Brading, Sandown, Lake and Shanklin

All stations on the Merseyrail Northern Lines require a change at Moorfields to get to Lime Street, or at Southport to get to Manchester Piccadilly, or at Ormskirk to get to Preston, or at Liverpool South Parkway to get to Crewe. Phew!

 

[mumrar]

or at Liverpool South Parkway to get to Crewe. Phew!

That's a good list, but the majority of those trips would be better to connect at Ruuncorn (no platform changing for restricted mobility customers).

 

[4SRKT]

How would you get to Runcorn?

 

[mumrar]

How would you get to Runcorn?

How wouldn't you go from Liverpool South Parkway to Crewe via Runcorn? I'm just saying that for Liverpool South Parkway to Euston, it's more practical to change at Runcorn.

 

[4SRKT]

How wouldn't you go from Liverpool South Parkway to Crewe via Runcorn? I'm just saying that for Liverpool South Parkway to Euston, it's more practical to change at Runcorn.

Ah. I see. An irrelevance

 

[bradders1983]

Ryde Pier Head, Ryde Esplanade, Ryde St Johns Road, Brading, Sandown, Lake and Shanklin

I did say UK Mainland in the OP