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0325 Peterborough to Kings Cross via Hertford, the only service from PBO to go via Hertford and stop at stations on the loop. None of the northbound ones do.
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Trivia: One way only services?
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The 16:43 to Edinburgh is pretty darned close.
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There are only all-stations from Romford to Liverpool Street during the evening peak, which I've always considered strange given the number of people making that journey.
If you looked at the stopping patterns of trains in Cornwall, you'd also see they're non-existent! Hayle or St Germans just have to put up with what they are offered, which is not a lot.
If you looked at the stopping patterns of trains in Cornwall, you'd also see they're non-existent! Hayle or St Germans just have to put up with what they are offered, which is not a lot.
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HarleyDavidson
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You might as well include the 0602/0609 Guildford to Newcastle in the one way list due to the amount of times it gets cancelled or its so called return working.
There is a down Flying Scotsman, it's the 0800 off the cross.
There is a down Flying Scotsman, it's the 0800 off the cross.
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Is Carstairs to Glasgow one way?
I think as well there is a CrossCountry service that runs through Livingston South that is one way although it dosen't stop.
I think as well there is a CrossCountry service that runs through Livingston South that is one way although it dosen't stop.
1C03 and 1C05 travel to Glasgow LL in the morning peak, with 1C04 and 1C06 terminating in the evening. So no. There's also frequent trains both ways from the High Level to Edinburgh and North Berwick.
According to RealTimeTrains, there's no passenger services passing through Livingston South non-stop at present. I think there used to be one such service (IIRC the 06:00 off GLC), but it's now just ECS services in both directions.
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Staying up in Scotland, in the morning one of the Milngavie services runs non-stop from Bearsden to Charing Cross (even, bizarrely, omitting a call at Partick): 1M14. None of the evening peak services run limited stop.
It also has a bizarre calling pattern East of Glasgow FWIW - running limited to stop to Airdrie, but local thereafter. This gives an unusual gap in services from local stations East of Glasgow going towards Edinburgh.
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thenorthern
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Just checked the 21:05 Saturdays only is scheduled to tun through Livingston South and does carry passengers although it dosen't call.
Esker-pades
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It's mainly the fact it doesn't stop at Lancaster. I don't know of any other VT(WC) services to not stop there.
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On that subject, I don't think there's a down version of the 04:10 Peterborough to Kings Cross service. It's all stations bar Arlesey, Welham Green, Brookmans Park, Hadley Wood, Hornsey and Harringay.
D'oh forgot about weekends
Still, I'm pretty sure it used to be a much more frequent occurrence in days gone by - I'm pretty sure the 06:00 departure off Glasgow ran via Shotts regularly (this being one of just two daily trains at the time), whereas both return services ran via Motherwell. However, I don't have timetables to confirm this, so I'm relying on my memory.
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A few more oddballs from the morning peak in western Scotland:
- 1Y20 0521 Oban to Glasgow Queen Street - The only West Highland Line service to call at Cardross, Singer, Maryhill and Possilpark & Parkhouse. There is no evening peak equivalent.
- 1E80 0751 Balloch to Springburn - Calls only at Dalmuir between Dumbarton Central and Partick, missing out Hyndland. The closest evening-peak equivalent is the 1H35 1714½ Bellgrove to Helensburgh Central, although that service skips Dalmuir.
- 1H06 0759 Helensburgh Central to Airdrie - Calls only at Scotstounhill between Dumbarton Central & Hyndland, skipping Dumbarton East & Dalmuir.
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2E89 1557 Southport to Leeds via Stalybridge, Huddersfield and Dewsbury is another one...
ValleyLines142
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It does call at Lancaster? At 2007.
There are 6 VT(WC) services a day (M-F) that do not call at Lancaster - 3 northbound and 3 southbound. Interestingly enough the 3 northbounds are all via the Trent Valley and the 3 southbounds all via Birmingham.
I was just coming to add that to this list if it hadn't already!
It's got a bit of an interesting history. Until very recently it started at Arrochar and Tarbet (I think) and essentially provided the SPT stations on the WHL with a morning commuter service into Glasgow. On its way, it stopped at the same stations, presumably as it would have plenty of space for more commuters in the busy morning peak! Of course, it's recently been extended to Oban, but for historical reasons it still has the same stopping pattern.
There was a train heading to Oban and Fort William at 18:10 or thereabouts in the evening, so there was no specific need for a return service with a matching stopping pattern.
Strathclyder
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Yeah, Arrochar and Tarbet was 1Y20's starting point before the December 2014 timetable change.
Esker-pades
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The 10:00 Glasgow to London doesn't. Which was my point in the first place.
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ValleyLines142
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The 1232 Holyhead to Maesteg is another. No return working, and the 0750 Fishguard to Manchester.
There's also a SaO Maesteg to Manchester.
There's also a SaO Maesteg to Manchester.
Whistler40145
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IIRC Several services run from Blackpool North to Huddersfield, but the reverse workings go to Wigan Wallgate.
Esker-pades
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The 05:30 London to Glasgow service doesn't appear to have a return working.
adrock1976
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This appears to remain in Platform 1 for just over an hour before forming the 11:40 London Euston via Trent Valley Railway service.
See: http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/Y82591/2016/05/16/advanced
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http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/search/advanced/GLC/2016/05/16/1131?stp=WVS&show=all&order=wtt
darloscott
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The morning 'extra' TPE 0631 Middlesbrough - Liverpool always stood out as a strange one. All others go to Man Airport. There's no return journey either as far as I'm aware.
ValleyLines142
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Indeed. The 1522 from Liverpool used to go there but I believe this is now just a Scarborough service like the rest of them.
Deepgreen
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Notwithstanding any operational reasons, to have such an iconic named train to run in one direction only (and away from Scotland at that!) is just bizarre. It begs a further trivia question - which named trains run/ran in one direction only? I can't immediately think of any others.
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Along with odd peak extras like Southport to Leeds and Huddersfield to Blackburn, which again don't have equivalent returns.
Esker-pades
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You misunderstand. There is not up service that has the same stopping pattern. Maybe I should have worded my own comment better.
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Each pair of stations is connected in both directions though, so it's an interesting but not extreme example.
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There's the 0906 (Monday-Friday) Chichester-Bognor Regis, for which there are no return workings. I'm pretty sure before the trailing crossover west of Barnham on the Chichester line was converted to a facing crossover (thus making it possible for passenger trains arriving at Barnham from Chichester to depart to Bognor) a few years back there were a couple of Bognor-Chichester trains but none from Chichester to Bognor because they were impossible.
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RichJF
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Does 2M15 0730 Coulsdon Town to Watford Junction count?
Only West London Line service that originates starts before Purley. No return southbound journey between Purley-Coulsdon.
Only West London Line service that originates starts before Purley. No return southbound journey between Purley-Coulsdon.
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