Trivia: Most Frequent services on one line?

[thenorthern]

This may have been discussed before but I was thinking what is the most frequent National Rail train service on a particular line, the one I can think of is the CrossCity line where it its every 10 minutes but I am sure there are more frequent ones.

 

[MidnightFlyer]

Thameslink is a lot more than 6tph each way, as are the lines through Glasgow Central / Queen Street Low Levels.

 

[johnnychips]

This may have been discussed before but I was thinking what is the most frequent National Rail train service on a particular line, the one I can think of is the CrossCity line where it its every 10 minutes but I am sure there are more frequent ones.

I think we have had this before, and those with better knowledge than me will relocate you to the thread. It's Clapham Junction to Waterloo and vv.

 

[thenorthern]

I think we have had this before, and those with better knowledge than me will relocate you to the thread. It's Clapham Junction to Waterloo and vv.

I think that is the overall most trains between two stations but that is made up of many different lines combining into one.

 

[yorkie]

I think that is the overall most trains between two stations but that is made up of many different lines combining into one.

go on then, define a 'line' for us

 

[Manchester77]

Are we excluding light rail and metro services from this? If not the central line has 34tph, Victoria 33tph. On the metrolink 25tph between Cornbrook and St Peters Square.

On main line, post Thameslink 2000 there's planned to be 24tph through the core operating using ATO.

 

[Eagle]

Are we excluding light rail and metro services from this? If not the central line has 34tph, Victoria 33tph. On the metrolink 25tph between Cornbrook and St Peters Square.

On main line, post Thameslink 2000 there's planned to be 24tph through the core operating using ATO.

And ditto Crossrail, 24tph.

Should point out that all these figures are peak-time only. Off-peak they can be quite different, for instance the Central is only 24tph between the peaks, and Thameslink will be 16tph.

 

[thenorthern]

go on then, define a 'line' for us

Personally I would define it as something like as a regular service between two stops that has its own regular timetable that may have certain extensions or alterations.

 

[johnnychips]

Personally I would define it as something like as a regular service between two stops that has its own regular timetable that may have certain extensions or alterations.

If we're excluding trams, Tubes and future Crossrail... how about Clapham Junction to Waterloo? Fits your definition.

 

[thenorthern]

I wouldn't call Clapham Junction to Waterloo the same service, I would say its loads of separate services using the same tracks but its up to you if its a service or not.

 

[tractakid]

The East London Line from Dalston Junction to Surrey Quays is 16 trains per hour, which, if not the most frequent, is still very frequent.

I would seek to define this question as 'most services between two stations'.

 

[higthomas]

i think that that is not what the OP meant. The most services between any two stations per hour is Clapham junction and waterloo, an answer which has come up before has come up before. I think what he meant was the most along any single 'route,' hence Clapham to waterloo would include the routes guildford to waterloo via epsom, reading to Waterloo etc. If one takes this interpretaation I would like to nominate the stoppers from Shenfield to Liverpool Street at once every ten minutes.

 

[tractakid]

Stourbridge shuttle is a schedule that repeats every 10 minutes in its entirety.

 

[Manchester77]

Manchester Piccadilly to Stockport?

 

[Eagle]

Manchester Piccadilly to Stockport?

If Waterloo to Clapham Junction doesn't count, then neither does this.

 

[thenorthern]

Manchester to Stockport I would personally exclude.

 

[mancnq]

How about London Liverpool Street to Shenfield, which is 6tph for the all stations service. Plus on top of that you have several longer distance services which call at one or more of just Stratford, Romford and Shenfield.

 

[thenorthern]

If a route is served by trains more that every 10 mins it should be considered for conversion to rapid transit in my opinion.

 

[Trainfan344]

Okay, shall we convert the lines out of all london terminals to rapid transit then?

 

[Eagle]

If a route is served by trains more that every 10 mins it should be considered for conversion to rapid transit in my opinion.

Birmingham New Street to London Euston is every 10 minutes on average...

(Well, not actually evenly spaced, the gaps are 4 and 16 minutes alternating).

 

[tractakid]

Yeah but half of those go via Northampton.

 

[172212]

Snow Hill Lines (Birmingham to Stourbridge) every 10 mins/6 trains per hour at every station apart from Langley Green, Old Hill & Lye

 

[Springs Branch]

Merseyrail Wirral Line around the Loop and to Birkenhead has to be a contender.
Currently there are 14 tph off-peak with an extra couple of trains per hour squeezed in at peak period.

Sure, the Wirral line diverges into 3 or 4 branches on the Wirral (as do many of the LU lines and Thameslink), but if you are standing on one platform at any of Hamilton Square, James St, Moorfields, Lime St Deep Level or Liverpool Central, you will see a train departing every 4 minutes or so any time throughout the day.
Under the Mersey is a more "homogeneous" high-frequency service than dashing about the platforms at Manchester Piccadilly or Clapham Junction looking for the next departure to Stockport or Waterloo. The core of the Wirral line is also more frequent than the Low Level routes through Glasgow Central or Queen Street.

 

[thealexweb]

Bolton (to Salford Crescent?) will be a strong contender for this. Generally has 7tph in each direction.

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/search/basic/BON/2014/01/06/1600

 

[yorkie]

How does Bolton to Salford Crescent, or Liverpool to Birkenhead 'count' any more than Clapham Junction to Waterloo?

You could count the entire service between two named stations, in which case we know the winner is Waterloo to Clapham Jn.

Or you could say the origin & destination & route taken must be the same, in which case Shenfield-Liverpool St will be hard to beat.

 

[Tetchytyke]

How does Bolton to Salford Crescent, or Liverpool to Birkenhead 'count' any more than Clapham Junction to Waterloo?

They're actually on the same line, rather than on separate lines next to each other

 

[Eagle]

What counts as separate lines though?

You could say that Clapham Junction to Waterloo is a single line with eight tracks, the same way that Bolton to Salford is a single line with two tracks.

 

[thenorthern]

What counts as separate lines though?

You could say that Clapham Junction to Waterloo is a single line with eight tracks, the same way that Bolton to Salford is a single line with two tracks.

I should say Route rather than a Line, Bolton to Manchester is several routes that share the same tracks where as London to Manchester is considered a single route.

 

[Chapeltom]

I should say Route rather than a Line, Bolton to Manchester is several routes that share the same tracks where as London to Manchester is considered a single route.

This is exactly how I was interpreting your original question.

 

[gnolife]

I should say Route rather than a Line, Bolton to Manchester is several routes that share the same tracks where as London to Manchester is considered a single route.

EUS to MAN would be two as a result of the two diffetent routes (Wilmslow or Macclesfield)