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[trivia] Most frequent services between stations

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boxy321

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If you go by trains per hour X mileage, Brum to London has to be up there, as mentioned before.

This works out at 691.5 train miles per hour.

Maybe a different thread to compare the above figures for routes???
 
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14tph (16tph peak) Liverpool Central - James St - is this considered like the tube (as it's underground)?
Surely Liverpool Moorfields to Liverpool Central has more?
Some nonstop, some via Lime Street.
 

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Yes 26 tph (up to 30 tph peak) although only 12tph (up to 14tph peak) in the opposite direction.
 

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Peterborough to Kings Cross. 76miles, 10 depatures from Peterborough in 55minutes in the morning.
 

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A few for the longer distances - not checked all but these seem to work:

200miles
Preston - Euston 66 a day (beats Newcastle due to sleepers!)

300miles
Edinburgh - Kings Cross 48 a day (To Bhm is 42, though only via Newcastle trains are over 300 miles, and Glasgow - Euston is 45)

400miles
Edinburgh - Bristol 23 a day

500miles
Edinburgh - Plymouth/Totnes/Newton Abbott 20 a day (XC here trounces any other route - Aberdeen to Kings Cross is best I could fine at 6 a day)

600miles
Edinburgh - Redruth/Cambourne/Penzance 5 a day

700miles
Aberdeen/Stonehaven - Bodmin Parkway and beyond, 1 train per day ;)
 
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Richard_B

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A few for the longer distances - not checked all but these seem to work:

200miles
Preston - Euston 66 a day (beats Newcastle due to sleepers!)

300miles
Edinburgh - Kings Cross 48 a day (To Bhm is 42, though only via Newcastle trains are over 300 miles, and Glasgow - Euston is 45)

400miles
Edinburgh - Bristol 23 a day

500miles
Edinburgh - Plymouth/Totnes/Newton Abbott 20 a day (XC here trounces any other route - Aberdeen to Kings Cross is best I could fine at 6 a day)

600miles
Edinburgh - Redruth/Cambourne/Penzance 5 a day

700miles
Aberdeen/Stonehaven - Bodmin Parkway and beyond, 1 train per day ;)

huh? not sure how you've got to these figures??
Edinburgh to Kings cross is about 20
Edinburgh to bristol is more like 12
preston to Euston 66?? there are 2 Virgin services an hour max!
 

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huh? not sure how you've got to these figures??
Edinburgh to Kings cross is about 20
Edinburgh to bristol is more like 12
preston to Euston 66?? there are 2 Virgin services an hour max!

The figures are both way, as I figured that was more important for longer distances: which is why they're all roughly double your approximations ;)
 

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Overall, definitely Waterloo to Clapham Junction 36tph off-peak (which I believe is more frequent than the peak, fewer fast trains stop in the peak).
Clapham Junction to Waterloo has 37 trains departing 0700-0759, so technically beats off-peak then. This drops to 33 in the 0800-0859 slot though, which is the same as Stratford to Liverpool Street. This should be slightly higher once full Crossrail operation starts, but that is subject to speculation :lol:

Including the tube, it's probably King's Cross St Pancras - Euston (incl Euston Square), which is 34 tph Victoria, 18 tph Northern, 12 Met, 6 Circle, 6 H&C, which adds up to 76 tph.
For tube+NR combinations, from Finsbury Park to Kings Cross in the 0700-0759 slot there are 10 (Great Northern) + 24 (Piccadilly) + 35 (Victoria) = 69tph. I appreciate this doesn't quite match Kings Cross to Euston (Square), but I would argue Euston Square is a different station, whereas Kings Cross St Pancras is one big complex.
 
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No, Piccadilly-Stockport beats that (14tph off-peak, as I make it...):
-3tph VT to Euston
-2tph XC via Birmingham
-1tph Stoke stopper (2tph in the peak)
-2tph Hazel Grove/Buxton
-2tph Hope Valley fast (Cleethorpes/Norwich)
-1tph Mid-Cheshire
-2tph Alderley Edge/Crew
-1tph South Wales

There's also extras towards Hazel Grove in the peaks. Once the next recast is implemented they'll be 2tph towards Northwich, 2 (local) tph towards Macclesfield and 4tph towards Hazel Grove.
 

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Adding tube+NR combinations, from Finsbury Park to Kings Cross in the 0700-0759 slot there are 10 (Great Northern) + 24 (Piccadilly) + 35 (Victoria) = 69tph. I appreciate this doesn't quite match Kings Cross to Euston (Square), but I would argue Euston Square is a different station, whereas Kings Cross St Pancras is one big complex.

You've omitted the Central Line from your Stratford - Liverpool St total, I think
 

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Preston - Euston 66 a day (beats Newcastle due to sleepers!)

What about Euston - Watford Junction

3TPH LO
Lots of LM services stop there ( at least 6TPH )
1TPH VT


The sleepers cannot be used by Euston - Preston passengers neither can Virgin services be used by Euston - Watford passengers so these must be discounted from the calculations.
 
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London Euston to Milton Keynes Central is about 50 miles and has 8 trains per hour which is a lot.

For 100 miles I think London to Crewe as others have said is 5 trains per hour and London to Doncaster which for the most part is a similar service patten are difficult to beat.

Although not to the same station Leeds to Manchester is 8 trains per hour which is quite a large number.
 

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You've omitted the Central Line from your Stratford - Liverpool St total, I think

Ah that was intentional, as the OP mentioned they were interested in NR rather than tube, so thought I'd address that first, though I take your point that it would be one of the highest frequencies with the Central line as well. Have edited for clarity.
 

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Ah that was intentional, as the OP mentioned they were interested in NR rather than tube, so thought I'd address that first, though I take your point that it would be one of the highest frequencies with the Central line as well. Have edited for clarity.

I think we've all agreed that if you include the tube, then King's Cross - Euston wins (with about 76tph).
 
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