Trivia: How many trainsets are there?

[leananger]

How many trainsets are in service anywhere on the island of Great Britain at say 1200hrs on a Monday?

 

[Darandio]

Lots.

Pretty sure it's a near impossible question to answer.

 

[RichmondCommu]

Children still have trainsets but you'd have to wait for them to get home from school.

 

[DarloRich]

Hornby must have made millions of trainsets.........................

 

[greatkingrat]

At March 2017, the total fleet size for all TOCs was 13377 vehicles. Obviously not all of them will be in service on any given day.

https://www.raildeliverygroup.com/f...m_passenger_rolling_stock_strategy_5th_ed.pdf

 

[LNW-GW Joint]

At March 2017, the total fleet size for all TOCs was 13377 vehicles. Obviously not all of them will be in service on any given day.

As the average unit size must be 3-4 vehicles, there must be 3000-4000 units, and maybe 1500 individual trains of 1-3 units each.

 

[leananger]

I obviously did not myself clear. Is it possible to study all the timetables to work out how many different trains are running at a particular time? Has anybody tried?

 

[2HAP]

They're model railway layouts, not train sets! :roll:

 

[Clip]

I obviously did not myself clear. Is it possible to study all the timetables to work out how many different trains are running at a particular time? Has anybody tried?

I think this would take an extremely long time to work it all out and lots of data input.

However, if you could work out how many units/lhcs there is per TOC and then estimate how many may be on exams and add some failures and depending if its peak/off peak you were wanting then you may get close.

I doubt it though

 

[Surreytraveller]

Perhaps you need to define what you mean by 'trainset'. Do you mean units? A train? Your most recent post would suggest you want to know how many trains are in public service at one particular moment?

 

[onlinespotting]

Perhaps you need to define what you mean by 'trainset'. Do you mean units? A train? Your most recent post would suggest you want to know how many trains are in public service at one particular moment?

Train set is correct terminology:

train set
noun
1.
a set of railway wagons or carriages, often with a locomotive, coupled together for a particular service.
2.
BRITISH
a set of trains, tracks, and other items making up a child's model railway.

 

[The Ham]

Train set is correct terminology:

train set
noun
1.
a set of railway wagons or carriages, often with a locomotive, coupled together for a particular service.
2.
BRITISH
a set of trains, tracks, and other items making up a child's model railway.

Quite, I was going to point out that if you went to a toy shop and asked to see their train sets they would take you to their section where the models are and not to some train depot.

 

[leananger]

OK, how many model railways are there in GB!?
You are such a pedantic lot on this forum.
When somebody says "We are running more services than ever before" or some such, where are the statistics to prove it?

 

[Darandio]

OK, how many model railways are there in GB!?

Lots!!

 

[ComUtoR]

When somebody says "We are running more services than ever before" or some such, where are the statistics to prove it?

Who are 'We' Are you talking about a specific TOC ? If so then you could simply check their timetable from previous years and compare that to today's service. I know for a fact that at my TOC services have increased. Some services have increased in #tph and there has also been an extension in places where the service runs later than previous years and extended their destinations too. So 100% at my TOC they are absolutely running more services than before.

Trainsets haven't (sorta) We have the same stock as before but they have been reshuffled about. Some have been reduced in length and others strengthened. It is also more visible that less trainsets remain in the yard during the day. Previously yards were pretty full. Now less so. Is that because of the strengthened services in terms of train length (which makes more trainsets in service but doesn't specifically increase services) or because there is a service increase ?

 

[DarloRich]

it depends on your definition. An example: The 1747 MKC - Esuton is a 12 car train formed of 3 class 350 units of 4 carriages each. Now, is that one train set, 3 train sets or 12 train sets?

 

[ComUtoR]

I agree

Another example is we have 4 sets 2x 10-car (4+4+2) 2x 8-car (4+4) Previously they would split and return to depot. They then get changed to 2x 12 (4+4+4) and 2x 6 (4+2) but hang around in that formation all day.

There is no change to the number of services but there is a change to the number of train sets in service throughout the day (leaving the splits in service). There is also a capacity increase.