Travelling between stations, or travelling on a train...

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In a recent thread there was discussion about the appropriateness of someone using a particular ticket. It appears that this was a trial method for those 'travelling' between x and y. Now the individual concerned claims his right to have used the same method as he was travelling between these stations, yet he was actually travelling from one further south to one two further north (using that company's route stops). My question is therefore is a rule that applies to passengers travelling between two stations also applicable if a passenger is on a train that travels through them, stopping, or not?

 

[John @ home]

Sorry, too cryptic for me.

I see that you don't want to reveal any actual places, but without that we can't give you any useful advice.

The rules on which route one is allowed to take are not recursive. That is to say,

• if B - C - D is a permitted route with a B - D ticket
• that does NOT imply that A - B - C - D - E is a permitted route with a A - E ticket.

 

[Eticketer]

My view is that it depends what the rule is. If the rule says the price is £10 if you are travelling between x and y then it's not reasonable to assume this would also apply if you are travelling between north of x and south of y which involves travelling between x and y.
Any reasonable person would expect to pay more for a longer journey.

But why TOCS can afford to be so sloppy in their wording I don't know.

 

[cuccir]

No need to be cryptic about it - the thread is here. The advert in question is probably worth quoting:

Travelling between Berwick and York? Why not use your iPhone to display your ticket
Buying your East Coast tickets online is fast, easy and great value – and you can even use your mobile phone to display the travel authorisation of your travel ticket.
If you’re travelling between Berwick and York and purchase your East Coast Advance ticket online, just choose the Print@Home option as your delivery method. Your Print@Home ticket will then be delivered to you by email as a PDF.
How your ticket works
Before your journey make sure your iPhone is fully charged or simply carry your charger with you to plug into the fitted sockets available on-board. To show your ticket to the on-board Guard during your journey, simply open the PDF on your iPhone – it contains a clever little 2D Aztec bar code which you can zoom in on, and the Guard will scan this for you.
So now you don’t have to worry about printing out a ticket and remembering to take it with you!

Put simply, we have a poorly worded advert. It states 'your iPhone', but the image given as example is clearly an iPod. The advert shows a ticket starting in Darlington - which is between York and Berwick, so suggests that at the very least the rule is not just for journeys between those specific stations.

I don't think there's a "correct" meaning of this phrase/advert. I suspect it, intended to mean any journey within the York-Berwick stretch of the ECML only. But I could imagine someone understanding it differently. I'm not sure there's any advantage in discussing this as a separate issue to Eticketer's thread: it's not a generic situation which should be repeated, it's unclear wording in a specific case.

 

[CatfordCat]

I'm not sure I understand the question, and it would depend whether X is north or south of Y...

Ordinary tickets are, as far as I'm aware, available for making a shorter journey - for example if I had a ticket from Basingstoke to London (SR) but chose to travel between Fleet and Clapham Junction, that would be OK, but I couldn't then go back to Clapham Junction and use the same ticket to travel on to Waterloo.

There are some 'special offer' tickets (the 'megatrain' deals spring rapidly to mind) that are only valid between the stations specified, e.g. a Waterloo - Bournemouth ticket would not be valid from Woking to Southampton.

The exact terms of any 'special offer' ticket will vary from one TOC and deal to another.

This sort of thing does not make sense to a fair proportion of the travelling public, though.

 

[yorkie]

It depends on the rule and how it is worded. It may then also depend on your interpretation.

If you have a specific rule in mind, please PM me to get the thread re-opened, otherwise we could be here all day discussing hypothetical interpretations of imaginary rules!