Transport For Wales Livery

[Cardiff123]

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If they are going to have Welsh text in black then I still think that English text should be in red. Light grey is not a bold enough colour for signage.

 

[PR1Berske]

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Having the forward slash format over "top and bottom" is unusual.

 

[Parallel]

Abergavenny has had most of the station lighting columns (not all) repainted from turquoise to black.

 

[anamyd]

List on page 9 updated.

 

[anamyd]

158-836 and 158-820 coupled at Aberystwyth on the 2230 Machynlleth on 25/5/19

 

[anamyd]

153-303 and 153-361 coupled at Cardiff Central on the 1518 Maesteg on 25/5/19

 

[JakeMurphy]

150217 has been PRM Modified

 

[Cardiff4]

Here's 153329 at Ty Glas and 153333 at Cardiff Queen Street - both taken on 29th May 2019.

 

[anamyd]

150217 has been PRM Modified

Thanks for reminding me, phone battery died while I was in Cardiff before seeing it. List on page 9 now updated

 

[anamyd]

Here's 153329 at Ty Glas and 153333 at Cardiff Queen Street - both taken on 29th May 2019.View attachment 63879 View attachment 63880

Nice shots! Does 333 ever appear at Central...?

 

[Oscar46016]

At the moment it's on2F38 so will be in central 14:36, then 16:34 for the next ebbw vale and back in at 18:37

 

[anamyd]

Thanks, I won't necessarily need to walk around the city to see it then. I was unlucky last time I was at Central!

At the moment it's on2F38 so will be in central 14:36, then 16:34 for the next ebbw vale and back in at 18:37

 

[anamyd]

158-841 appears to no longer have one odd dark blue vestibule bin since its relivery. Not sure if anyone else actually noticed that, but it's attention to detail like that that I like

 

[krus_aragon]

Was that a lingering scrap of Alphaline livery, or was it a Regional Railways shade? (I rather liked the RR two-tone blue stripe along their luggage racks that survived until their mid-life ATW refurbishment.)

 

[anamyd]

Was that a lingering scrap of Alphaline livery, or was it a Regional Railways shade? (I rather liked the RR two-tone blue stripe along their luggage racks that survived until their mid-life ATW refurbishment.)

I'd say it was the darker shade of the RR two-tone, I'm not sure how the bin came to be installed post refurb (assuming it was). Gone now as of TfW livery anyway!

 

[JakeMurphy]

Saw 158824 hanging outside the paint shop in Crewe today so I’m guessing that is the next 158 to be repainted. Not sure who the most recent one was though

 

[anamyd]

Saw 158824 hanging outside the paint shop in Crewe today so I’m guessing that is the next 158 to be repainted. Not sure who the most recent one was though

825 and 841 were the ones done in May. thanks for the info! 824 will be getting PRM mods at the same time as TfW livery as this has been the case for any of the ones done so far that didn't already have them

 

[CambrianCoast]

158-841 appears to no longer have one odd dark blue vestibule bin since its relivery. Not sure if anyone else actually noticed that, but it's attention to detail like that that I like

I was on 158841 today. It formed the 09:34 Pwllheli to Birmingham and miraculously the air con was working and really well too!

 

[anamyd]

I was on 158841 today. It formed the 09:34 Pwllheli to Birmingham and miraculously the air con was working and really well too!

That's great to hear! I've never understood how the original 158 air con system can sometimes work, even though the type of gas on which it was designed to run was outlawed shortly after the introduction of the class in the early 90s. Unless TfW have started to have new air con systems fitted...?

 

[krus_aragon]

That's great to hear! I've never understood how the original 158 air con system can sometimes work, even though the type of gas on which it was designed to run was outlawed shortly after the introduction of the class in the early 90s. Unless TfW have started to have new air con systems fitted...?

Nah, they won't have fitted new air-con systems to a fleet that's on its way out in a few years (especially not without trumpeting about it to the world). They'll have cleaned and serviced the system, and replenished the coolant gas instead.

 

[anamyd]

Nah, they won't have fitted new air-con systems to a fleet that's on its way out in a few years (especially not without trumpeting about it to the world). They'll have cleaned and serviced the system, and replenished the coolant gas instead.

Interesting, so the system will run on the modern (CFC-free...?) aircon gas, even though it wasn't designed to...? If TfW have indeed told the depot staff to do what you've described, it just goes to show how their attitude differs from Arriva's.

 

[craigybagel]

I was on 158841 today. It formed the 09:34 Pwllheli to Birmingham and miraculously the air con was working and really well too!

Nah, they won't have fitted new air-con systems to a fleet that's on its way out in a few years (especially not without trumpeting about it to the world). They'll have cleaned and serviced the system, and replenished the coolant gas instead.

Interesting, so the system will run on the modern (CFC-free...?) aircon gas, even though it wasn't designed to...? If TfW have indeed told the depot staff to do what you've described, it just goes to show how their attitude differs from Arriva's.

CambrianCoast got lucky. Nothing has changed with the air con - it was designed to run off now banned CFC gases, and whilst it can run off non CFC gases, it's very unreliable, hence the same old issues that have been going on for years. It does sometimes work, but often not.

TfW did say however when they took on the franchise that they would replace the system, despite the 158s being due for withdrawal.

 

[anamyd]

CambrianCoast got lucky. Nothing has changed with the air con - it was designed to run off now banned CFC gases, and whilst it can run off non CFC gases, it's very unreliable, hence the same old issues that have been going on for years. It does sometimes work, but often not.

TfW did say however when they took on the franchise that they would replace the system, despite the 158s being due for withdrawal.

Thanks for clearing this up I assume that the first 158 to have the new interior with the TfW seat moquette and carpets, light woodgrain veneered tables and presumably the mosaic wallpaper replaced with something else and any other traces of ATW removed, will also have a new air con system.

pause at 0:46 for the mockup (third from left)

 

[anamyd]

Why have we not yet seen the TfW livery on a 150, only 153/158/(175)...?

 

[6Gtraincrew]

Why have we not yet seen the TfW livery on a 150, only 153/158/(175)...?

'Cos none have been done yet

Not due to start on those until July

 

[33017]

825 and 841 were the ones done in May. thanks for the info! 824 will be getting PRM mods at the same time as TfW livery as this has been the case for any of the ones done so far that didn't already have them

158824 was stopped for PRM from 6th to 25th May but was not repainted. Out in traffic today in ATW colours.

 

[PHILIPE]

Why have we not yet seen the TfW livery on a 150, only 153/158/(175)...?

Getting PRM done is a greater priority

 

[anamyd]

Not due to start on those until July

thanks for the info will interior refurbishment be done as well or just TfW livery for now...?

 

[anamyd]

Getting PRM done is a greater priority

True!

 

[anamyd]

158824 was stopped for PRM from 6th to 25th May but was not repainted. Out in traffic today in ATW colours.

same as 835 then (PRM mods only, but after the TfW liveried ones started appearing). thanks for the info.