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231007 is out today and the diagram in full on the blog https://partimespotter.wordpress.com/ (unless it's swapped out )
Pleased to say it isn’t swapped out; I’m currently sat on it231007 is out today and the diagram in full on the blog https://partimespotter.wordpress.com/ (unless it's swapped out )

Is there only one toilet on these then? Hadn't realised that!Pleased to say it isn’t swapped out; I’m currently sat on it
Edit: As we approach Cardiff Central on Penarth - Rhymney, I must say that the four carriages is much needed. It's very busy. Although two or three seats are free, many are standing in the vestibule areas.
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Absolutely mortified, as at Lisvane & Thornhill I noticed the toilet had been engaged since Cardiff Central and wondered if it was out of order - when I pushed the button an alarm screamed at me - so I asked the guard if it was the only toilet on the train as I wanted to swipe some tissues (kept sneezing as forgot my allergy pill!) and when finding out the toilet was out of order he unlocked it with a key to expose a poor gentleman sat there. On the bright side, it means the toilet apparently IS working! Would have been awful if it had been broken and me alerting staff inadvertently caused it to be cancelled!
Yes, it appears so. And these are four car units too, vice two, so by rights Monsieur @Rhydgaled should take greater issue with these than the 197sIs there only one toilet on these then? Hadn't realised that!
The snow is really very pretty, let's just hope it doesn't make for slippery rails or hinderance to the FLIRT. Would feel terrible for everyone making the journey to come and ride it if snow disruption caused it to be cancelled. It's not really in Cardiff but is getting heavier the further north we go.Snow is preventing me getting over to Rhymney for the 0927. Hoping it's cleared up a bit for me to get over for the 1427.

I thought the 756's were basically just tri-mode versions of the 231's? Would TFW spec them differently?Remember these are ultimately for the longer rides to Cheltenham, Maesteg and Ebbw Vale, they will include a few luxuries such as tables. Not sure the 768's have the same. We will see.
Remember these are ultimately for the longer rides to Cheltenham, Maesteg and Ebbw Vale, they will include a few luxuries such as tables. Not sure the 768's have the same. We will see.
I was under the impression they had more seats and fewer tables. Hopefully we can get to see one soon. The idea is they will have a higher frequency so not the same spec. I may be wrong.I thought the 756's were basically just tri-mode versions of the 231's? Would TFW spec them differently?
And many Lydney & Cheltenham passengers will use CrossCountry.Central to Rhymney is about the same time as to Ebbw Vale town.
I was under the impression they had more seats and fewer tables. Hopefully we can get to see one soon. The idea is they will have a higher frequency so not the same spec. I may be wrong.
four-car 756s (are supposed to) have 158 seats, 231s have 170 (see here). the difference is because the 756s have an extra door which takes up the same amount of space as three rows of seats, not because there's any difference in table provision (both have 21).I was under the impression they had more seats and fewer tables. Hopefully we can get to see one soon. The idea is they will have a higher frequency so not the same spec. I may be wrong.
Yes, I read that the 756s will have an extra door, but they don't seem to from the videos and photos I've seen of them?four-car 756s (are supposed to) have 158 seats, 231s have 170 (see here). the difference is because the 756s have an extra door which takes up the same amount of space as three rows of seats, not because there's any difference in table provision (both have 21).
on the few that i can find which clearly show both middle carriages (e.g. https://www.vagonweb.cz/fotogalerie/foto/202203/20220922_180509.jpg) they do have the extra door.Yes, I read that the 756s will have an extra door, but they don't seem to from the videos and photos I've seen of them?
Ah yes, right you are. I thought I read somewhere that it'd be eight doors (not seven) vs six on 231, so when I saw an intermediate carriage without a second door I assumed that plan had been scrapped.on the few that i can find which clearly show both middle carriages (e.g. https://www.vagonweb.cz/fotogalerie/foto/202203/20220922_180509.jpg) they do have the extra door.
Sounds like the 231s are a big step up. I'm going to brave the bus replacements and try it out later today
Can't work out the platform heights. eg Energlyn & Churchill Park has new platform fitted ramps but Aber dosen't. One of those at Tirphil has been stolen!!They are indeed a big step up from the existing stock.
Though - unlike the older trains - there isn't a step up when you get on...
I must say that these feel more like a 745 than a 755, and yes there is a difference. I think it's the layout and all the white panels - there's quite a lot of fake wood on 755s.
Glad to see they're going down well in Wales. 745s and 755s have identical interiors besides first and a buffet in the 745/0s and no tables, first or buffet in the 745/1s. They look amazing in the snow, see this pic (although this was at 100mph so the Welsh Flirts won't be doing those speeds).Yes, it appears so. And these are four car units too, vice two, so by rights Monsieur @Rhydgaled should take greater issue with these than the 197sStill, more than the 398s will get.
Ride is exceptionally quiet and smooth, announcements nowhere near as intrusive as on the MK4s, seats with armrests and tables a major step up from the Sprinters/FLEX, and the PIS is fabulous - far better than Greater Anglia's.
I must say that these feel more like a 745 than a 755, and yes there is a difference. I think it's the layout and all the white panels - there's quite a lot of fake wood on 755s.
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The snow is really very pretty, let's just hope it doesn't make for slippery rails or hinderance to the FLIRT. Would feel terrible for everyone making the journey to come and ride it if snow disruption caused it to be cancelled. It's not really in Cardiff but is getting heavier the further north we go.
Image description: The snow at Ystrad Mynach, where we currently are:
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Ah, I might have seen you. I’ve travelled a bit on it today but bailed at Grangetown just now as I’m not feeling very well. Hope everyone enjoys their time on it. It’s a lovely trainJust rode from Queen Street to Penarth. Very impressed. Smooth, quiet, I love the jingle before manual PA announcements and it was gloriously warm after waiting on the platform for 30 min. A lot of TfW staff got on at Central as well and got me to take some photos for them in front of the train.

I’m waiting for it at Queen Street, unfortunately six minutes late meaning I forfeited my pistachio latte for no reason!
Due to the delay, the regular commuters have somewhat ironically moved to catch this fella instead
Image shows Northern’s 150269 at Queen Street.
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Really very nice. Elin is unfortunately working albeit thankfully nowhere near as long announcements as 197s, which in turn are shorter than MK4.
The old Arriva 175 chime is used for staff announcements!!!
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You probably did then. Had my orange and grey scarf on.Ah, I might have seen you. I’ve travelled a bit on it today but bailed at Grangetown just now as I’m not feeling very well. Hope everyone enjoys their time on it. It’s a lovely train![]()
Thanks. I had the same coat and beanie on as in my avatar haha. The 398s look very nice compared to the 150s, but my uni house is in Cathays and I only really use the route for ten minutes into Cardiff, so anything will do reallyYou probably did then. Had my orange and grey scarf on.
Hope you feel better soon!
I do hope the 398s we're getting up the Rhondda can live up to these despite there inherent differences.
It’s a very nice train for the route, yes.Love pistachio and that new train is nuts! Look forward to going on one when I do the Wetherspoons around Cardiff possibly later this year depending on wedding finances etc.


Yes, unlike the 755s, the 231s and 756s have just the accessible toilet. There are six extra seats in place of the space-saver toilet which the 755s also have.Is there only one toilet on these then? Hadn't realised that!
One question I have though is I note that the seats all have numbers on and have space for the paper reservations. Given the routes these trains will run on, why are seat numbers and paper reservation spaces available? That's a bit of a backwards step in my opinion. Seat numbers are useless without reservations and the metro area doesn't need people booking seat reservations.
One bug I noticed on the PIS was just coming out of the tunnel just after Thornhilll heading into Caerphilly, the PIS decided to start saying the next stop is Aber. Suggesting we had been past Caerphilly.