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Two general questions have been floating around at the back of my mind since this inquiry - they could just as easily refer to any other inquiry called. They are probably "stupid questions", but they just won't "un-ask" themselves!

- The Traffic Commissioner (TC) has the power to bar individuals from directorships or Transport Managerships (TM) on operating licenses, and thus, I assume, by extension, of a transport-related business. Does this ban for "lack of good repute" carry any weight in any other sector? E.g. could an individual banned from TM-ship set up a consulting company without issue, and remain in the industry that way? (i.e. the letter, but not quite the spirit, of the punishment? Obviously assuming anyone would take their work...) Alternatively, could a negative note from the TC lead Companies house to consider ill-repute in a completely different sector? Would I want someone banned from directing a company in the transport industry setting up in an equally safety-led sector, for example.

- Much was made in his particular instance of the unpaid fees to the Welsh Government, from another traffic area, and the failure to pay seems to have provided another nail in the coffin of good repute here. Is there any reason why this wouldn't have been picked up on before the new license was granted/TM-ship accepted? It seems a little odd to have (rightly) made a big deal out of it now, yet also to have granted the license with previous poor repute fees outstanding. Shouldn't they be cleared in the same was as any time-limited ban?
Only the Insolvency Service can stop someone from being a company director at all, the Traffic Commissioner's decision just relates to transport so there is nothing to stop Rhys Hand being a company director in another industry.
 
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Two general questions have been floating around at the back of my mind since this inquiry - they could just as easily refer to any other inquiry called. They are probably "stupid questions", but they just won't "un-ask" themselves!

- Much was made in his particular instance of the unpaid fees to the Welsh Government, from another traffic area, and the failure to pay seems to have provided another nail in the coffin of good repute here. Is there any reason why this wouldn't have been picked up on before the new license was granted/TM-ship accepted? It seems a little odd to have (rightly) made a big deal out of it now, yet also to have granted the license with previous poor repute fees outstanding. Shouldn't they be cleared in the same was as any time-limited ban?
I read that issue as a failure of communication, the company was purchased so it was a variation to the licence to add Mr Hand as a director/ TM at which point it appears Transpora should have declared the issue but didn't. In the end VOSA should have a database which would have flagged the issue at their end but it appears they don't.
 

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I think it should be pointed out that the ownership evolution of Altonian that the TC has been so irritated to have discover were noted by members of this forum long before anybody in the Western Traffic Area Office noticed. Perhaps it would be beneficial to have somebody with a vague passing interest in the comings and goings of the industry working amongst the staff of the TAO or DVSA's intelligence staff?
 

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I think it should be pointed out that the ownership evolution of Altonian that the TC has been so irritated to have discover were noted by members of this forum long before anybody in the Western Traffic Area Office noticed. Perhaps it would be beneficial to have somebody with a vague passing interest in the comings and goings of the industry working amongst the staff of the TAO or DVSA's intelligence staff?
Or a central data base of any person banned from operating buses or anyone banned from being a Transport Manager which is always consulted before licences approved. This should be maintained by all TCs collectively.
 

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The screen shots also made it on to the Transpora instagram, also deleted but seems many screenshots circulating various Facebook pages
 

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And post gone now............
Not surprised, posting people's personal (as it would seem) mobile number is hardly professional or in this case legal. And some people may wonder why Transpora South West's operations failed.
 

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Not surprised, posting people's personal (as it would seem) mobile number is hardly professional or in this case legal. And some people may wonder why Transpora South West's operations failed.
The number is on Transpora websites if you search for it on google.
 

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Mr Higgs is sending a crime reference number around concerning malicious and libellous Facebook posts. This may not end well.
 

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Outcome of an Employment Tribunal

Claimant: Mr G Westwell

Respondent: (1) WC1LDN Ltd
(2) Altonian Coaches Ltd

Heard at: Bristol On: 16 August 2024
Before: Employment Judge Midgley
Appearances
For the Claimant: In person
For the Respondents: No attendance or representation
UPON the claimant attending the hearing and no representation or attendance from the First
and Second Respondents
AND UPON taking evidence from the claimant in relation to the issue of disability
AND FURTHER UPON the claimant confirming that the First Respondent was his employer
and his claims of discrimination related to his management and not the conduct of individual
employees of the Second Respondent
JUDGMENT
Employment Tribunals Rules of Procedure 2013 – Rules 21, 37 and 47
1. The claimant was a person with a disability in the period 5 July 2023 to 1 October 2023
2. The responses of the First and Second Respondents are struck out pursuant to rule
37(c) and (d) and/or pursuant to rule 47.
3. The claims under the Employment Rights Act 1996 against the Second Respondent
are dismissed.
4. Default Judgment pursuant to Rule 21 is entered against the First Respondents in
respect of the claims under the Employment Rights Act 1996 and against the First and
Second Respondents in relation the claims under the Equality Act 2010.

5. The sums to which the claimant is entitled as compensation for losses and injury to
feelings will be determined at a remedy hearing in accordance with the Orders bel
 

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As I don't speak lawyer, just to be clear the judge found WC1LND (whoever that is) guilty but Altonian not guilty?
It would appear so, but I'm not a lawyer either.

According to Companies House records

the company was previously known as Transpora Ltd and Transpora Group Ltd and Charlie Butler, Rhys Hand and Philip Higgs are former directors. It's accounts are overdue. If I was Mr Westwell I wouldn't count on getting any money they owe any time soon, if at all.
 
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It would appear so, but I'm not a lawyer either.

According to Companies House records

the company was previously known as Transpora Ltd and Transpora Group Ltd and Charlie Butler, Rhys Hand and Philip Higgs are former directors. It's accounts are overdue. If I was Mr Westwell I wouldn't count on getting any money they owe any time soon, if at all.
I’ve noticed on some tribunals the claimant has claimed jointly against the ltd company and directors successfully, which presumably means they can enforce against the director personally if the company fails?
 
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