Transpennine Express coach order Edinburgh to Manchester

[ejstubbs]

Travelling Edinburgh to Manchester with Transpennine next week on the 06:15, and trying to reserve a seat. I've found the seating plans on TPE's web site but it's not clear which way round the train will be, and it's a long time since I rode that route. Is coach A at the front heading to Edinburgh?

 

[Clip]

I don't think its for certain which way round it will be I'm afraid but I hope someone can try and give you a firmer answer

 

[DarloRich]

is it not subject to operational requirements?

PS MANC = Manchester? EDI = Edinburgh?

 

[ejstubbs]

Drat, I only added that bit at the last moment, and managed to get it completely wrong! Now fixed.

I did the journey every week for a while and from memory the 06:15 from Edinburgh was a fairly fixed formation. I just can't remember which way round it was!

It seemed to be much more variable on the way back.

 

[driver9000]

It's pot luck which way round the unit will be. They can only be labelled in a certain order from 1 end (DMS1 is coach A) otherwise the seats won't line up properly. Sometimes A leads north, sometimes D leads north. The only consistent method is to have A-D leading out from Manchester Airport. Even on 8 car trains the coaches may not be in proper alphabetical order, they can be D-A and H-E. If you want a visual clue for a 350 then look for the pantograph which is always coach B on a 4 coach train.

 

[ejstubbs]

OK, thanks both for your advice. Looks like I'll have to take my chances then!

 

[Bletchleyite]

How do they end up the wrong way round when confined to Manchester Airport to Scotland?

 

[WatcherZero]

Joining and splitting

 

[driver9000]

How do they end up the wrong way round when confined to Manchester Airport to Scotland?

Turning them regularly keeps everyone on their toes. They also get turned when a fault means a cab needs burying or an infrastructure failure means they go out in a loop (or reverse in Carstairs station) so they can sometimes end up facing the other way.

 

[TUC]

Anyone else think this thread was about TPE placing an order for coaches?!

 

[Ianno87]

How do they end up the wrong way round when confined to Manchester Airport to Scotland?

Do some units potentially ECS between Edinburgh and Glasgow/Corkerhill, thus can get turned on the "third" side of Carstairs triangle?

 

[A Challenge]

Surely then it isn't that difficult to reverse it by going round two side round, which wouldn't be too difficult surely (or turn it elsewhere eg Manchester Airport)

 

[Ianno87]

Don't know if any units every ECS Ardwick-Airport via Wilmslow, which would be another source of turned units?

 

[A Challenge]

It appears not http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/sea...3/0000-2359?stp=WVS&show=all&order=wtt&toc=TP

 

[Class 170101]

5S83 on Saturday and Sunday evenings Edinburgh to Corkerhill TMD will regularly turn the units at Carstairs.