Trains which never arrive on time

[ChrisHogan]

Usually delayed by the stopper running late between Birmingham & Wolves.

That in turn has been delayed by the Bournemouth - Manchester ahead of it.
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My nominations are:

1703 Euston to New Street, always seems to catch up the 1657/1700 departures about MKC and then loses the usual two minutes approaching Rugby (timing error apparently common to all xx03s from Euston). Three minutes late at Proof House clashes with 1830 departure so it waits outside. Last trip on this one was 9 late arrival.

1715 Marylebone to Kidderminster. Timed through the middle of a terminator crossing to turnback siding at Gerrards Cross then usually gets delayed by the XC Bournemouth-Manchester from Aynho to LMS. Not clear to me why NRIL gives preference to an XC service over the LH Chiltern service. The Chiltern service has mainly 60 second stops that are completely inadequate (needs 120 second stops on a busy service, particularly after the guard has checked the platform hasn't moved) so it then gradually goes from 5 late at LMS to 10 late at Stourbridge. The last time I checked on RecentTrainTimes it had a 96% failure rate to arrive Right Time from the "Right Time TOC".

 

[The Planner]

1703 Euston to New Street, always seems to catch up the 1657/1700 departures about MKC and then loses the usual two minutes approaching Rugby (timing error apparently common to all xx03s from Euston). Three minutes late at Proof House clashes with 1830 departure so it waits outside. Last trip on this one was 9 late arrival.

Which is what the last few posts are about, it is a situation that cannot be fixed without either sorting the signalling or re-timing a lot of trains.

1715 Marylebone to Kidderminster. Timed through the middle of a terminator crossing to turnback siding at Gerrards Cross then usually gets delayed by the XC Bournemouth-Manchester from Aynho to LMS. Not clear to me why NRIL gives preference to an XC service over the LH Chiltern service. The Chiltern service has mainly 60 second stops that are completely inadequate (needs 120 second stops on a busy service, particularly after the guard has checked the platform hasn't moved) so it then gradually goes from 5 late at LMS to 10 late at Stourbridge. The last time I checked on RecentTrainTimes it had a 96% failure rate to arrive Right Time from the "Right Time TOC".

That one is tight as it follows the ECS which is at a stand on headway, though it isn't timed through the middle of it at all. The XC goes first so it stands a chance of recovering along the Coventry corridor.

 

[Phil from Mon]

Journey planners will tell you to do stupid things because of the connection times programmed in. For instance, if you're changing from the Llandudno-Piccadilly service to the Blackpool-Airport service it will tell you to change at Oxford Rd where you'll need to walk between platforms, instead of Piccadilly where you can remain on platform 14.

One thing I've wondered about here. What would be the situation if you had an advance ticket? Are you expected to change at Oxford Road in any case, or can you wait until Piccadilly? After all, they are the same trains, just that you are leaving one late and getting on the other early. The same happens with London to the request stops on Anglesey. Advance tickets will change you at Chester rather than keeping you on the, in my opinion, more comfortable main line service until Llandudno Jct or Bangor before getting the ATW service.

Mods - please split and move to another forum if you feel this is going off at a tangent!