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Trains through Carlisle at night?

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Busterfridge

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Hi all, looking for advice, experiences, hints and tips, I'm planning on doing an 'allnighter' on Carlisle on june the 6th with the camera, (Mrs Fridge is letting me loose for the night !) have studied 'realtime trains' and it looks reasonably busy on a Thursday night (how reliable is the info on realtimes ?), what i'm after is info hints and tips on what to expect and what problems I may run into, are the staff liable to try and boot me at 3am ? any help and advice would be welcome, thanks in advance
 
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Hi, I did an all night visit in March. Found staff to be very helpful. They opened the waiting room early for me to use. There were over fifteen freights between 11pm and 2 am. It was a bit quieter after that. It was a Thursday when I was there
 

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Hi all, looking for advice, experiences, hints and tips, I'm planning on doing an 'allnighter' on Carlisle on june the 6th with the camera, (Mrs Fridge is letting me loose for the night !) have studied 'realtime trains' and it looks reasonably busy on a Thursday night (how reliable is the info on realtimes ?)



RTT is 100% accurate when it comes to stating what has happened, as the info comes from TRUST, and TRUST gets its info off track circuit.

In terms of finding out what will happen it is useful but you have to know what your doing! Be prepared to look out for trains running early, late, cancelled and paths that are unused.
 

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RTT is 100% accurate when it comes to stating what has happened, as the info comes from TRUST, and TRUST gets its info off track circuit.

In terms of stating what will happen it is not reliable as it just states paths some of them are not used, times which pay be incorrect due to late running, early running or cancellation.

And of course everything on RTT runs doesn't it (I'm using sarcasm)
 

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And of course everything on RTT runs doesn't it (I'm using sarcasm)
Thats what I said in my previous message.








Now going on to my next topic, my advice to the OP is if you can get RTT on your mobile phone you can get live info on what is running and what isnt so your not wasting your time waiting for something that is not going to turn up.



Speaking from experience I've once spotted and photted on Carlisle station at night up to 03:00AM where I left to go to my £50 hotel with double bed that I'd booked. (I do not believe in roughing it!)

It was busy enough and best thing is most freight stops for a crew change which makes it probably *the* best public place in the country for getting night shots of freight if you got a camera/tri pod.
I got pairs of 86's, lots of 66's (DRS, FL, EWS), 92's on intermodals and wagonloads, 90's on sleepers and freightliners, Tampers, MPVs, a stone blower, light engines, a 5-loco convoy of 60s+66s that had come up from Warrington, 57 on the logs and a test train with DRS 37. This was back in 2007 however! No RTT to help me find out what was on its way up back then.

Returned to the station at 10:00 the next day. A trainspotter who had been there all night was still there. I'd asked him what I'd missed, he said nothing special except a green tank train with a class 60 that had been through a couple of times during the very early morning. But other than that he said it had gone quiet after I had left. So if anything the first half of the night is are far more productive than the second half. It wasn't very good in the early evening however and took a while until it started to "get going" properly... when the freight started flowing and the irrelevant units and annoying announcements died down.

It was a Friday night and it was very memorable. I was partly staying there to go to the DRS open day the next day. There was no regrets.
 
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As has been said already RTT shows every possible path that could possibly happen, which is around 40 between midnight and 6am

In reality there are only about half that running.

Freightmaster has a 24 hour table for Carlisle.
This shows about 16 freights between midnight and 3pm and about 8 between 3am and 6am.

You will find this over 95% accurate, but what it does not do is tell you is if the trains are running late or early on that particular night, but used in conjunction with RTT on a mobile device is pretty much spot on.
 
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There is something special about being around the railways at night - I've always loved late/night turns, as the trains and passengers thin out and the freights wander through.
 

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This shows about 16 freights between midnight and 3pm and about 8 between 3pm and 6pm

Don't you mean 16 freights between midnight and 3AM and 8 between 3AM and 6AM?

But that would sound about right, as I said, the first half of the night (post midnight) is far, far busier than the second half.

This is why I would strongly recommend booking a B&B and leaving the station at 03:00 instead of roughing it out on the platforms for the full night.

The same can be said about Barnetby.
 

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RTT is 100% accurate when it comes to stating what has happened, as the info comes from TRUST, and TRUST gets its info off track circuit.

Really, so 1O52 0439 Reading to Redhill left Blackwater (BAW) 3 minutes before it arrived there this morning did it? ;)

BAW always shows trains in that direction as having left a couple/few minutes before it has actually arrived. :lol:

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Forget that realtimetrains seems to miss the departure time off but CC--D gets it wrong, probably because it guesses!
 

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Don't you mean 16 freights between midnight and 3AM and 8 between 3AM and 6AM?

But that would sound about right, as I said, the first half of the night (post midnight) is far, far busier than the second half.

This is why I would strongly recommend booking a B&B and leaving the station at 03:00 instead of roughing it out on the platforms for the full night.

The same can be said about Barnetby.

Oppps sorry you are of course correct and I have edited it. Thanks:oops:
 
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