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Trainee driver vacancies at Freightliner.

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driver9000

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Applied for a pack myself, anyone got their pack and got any comments on the style of the form?

My pack still hasnt arrived yet!!

I would assume it will be a standard railway style application form with all the normal questions, plus what I call 'life story' questions which ask you to detail certain aspects vaugely in line with responsibilties to do with the job. When I joined the railway it was questions like:

Describe an emergency situation you have been in, and what did you do?
Describe an occasion you have been responsible for.
Describe a situation when you have worked alone.

Dont worry if you dont have these experiences from your working life, you can write about personal experiences too.
 
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Quick update about this vacancy (from the FL website).

The applications for Freightliner's train driver scheme have now closed. Thank you to everyone who applied, and if you haven't yet received your application packs, please be patient as due to the high demand you may not receive your pack immediately.

Due to the large response rate, application form and questionnaire submissions will now be accepted by Freightliner up until Thursday 27 March 2008.
 

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Hail All! Long time no post! <D
Damn...I wish I'd seen this sooner, as Id've applied for the position as well if Id've seen it in time! Serves me right for forgetting to come here for a while, doesn't it? :lol:

One thing that I was thinking about last night though was the question: "Would I actually be safe enough as a train driver?". Now a lot of ye know that it's a job I'd love to do, but I'm also a bit of a speed freak (Remember my comments about 500mph 370s! :shock::eek::!:) and after seeing a programme last night that went into detail about how poor adherance to design and safety standards caused the Kaprun tragedy (155 deaths) it did start me wondering if my own adherance to safety standards on the railway would be sufficient enough. :oops::rolleyes::sad:

Now I do have a habit of following posted safety instructions to the letter (When driving cars, I adhere to posted speed limits as best I can, although I do sometimes go a couple of mph over without realising) but the thing I'm thinking with regard to trains is that if I was driving a Pendo through the Trent Valley - Which IIRC is cleared for 140mph operation - Would it be possible that my "speed-freak" side might get the better of me, tempt me to take the Trent Valley section at 150mph, and not decellerate back to 125mph once I'm out of there? :!::shock::sad:

Another thing (That I might've mentioned before) is that I happen to have a moderate learning disability (Asperger's Syndrome) as well...So is it really a wise idea for me to consider driving vehicles weighing hundreds of tons, with immense momentum (And long stopping distances) across the country at speeds in excess of 120mph anyway?... :shock::rolleyes::oops:

Farewell... <D
>> Death <<
 

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I wouldn't bother getting your hopes up. FL moved the goal posts a few days ago ....

Thank you to everyone who applied, and if you haven't yet received your application packs, please be patient as due to the high demand you may not receive your pack immediately. Those who live more than an hour from the stated depots will also be filtered in the application process.

You now have until Thursday 27 March 2008 to return the completed application form and questionnaire to Freightliner.

Basically, if you don't live in NW London, the West Midlands or Cheshire, you've no chance .....
 

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Fussy fockers...

Clearly never heard of anyone 'upping sticks' and relocating for a job...:roll:

If they wanted to be that picky, they should have mentioned it on their webpages at the time...

Means I don't have to like Freightliner now though!:)
 

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Most, if not all TOC's have the same rule to be fair, although was probably an oversight not to mention this in the first place.:(
 

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Hail All!

Now I do have a habit of following posted safety instructions to the letter (When driving cars, I adhere to posted speed limits as best I can, although I do sometimes go a couple of mph over without realising) but the thing I'm thinking with regard to trains is that if I was driving a Pendo through the Trent Valley - Which IIRC is cleared for 140mph operation - Would it be possible that my "speed-freak" side might get the better of me, tempt me to take the Trent Valley section at 150mph, and not decellerate back to 125mph once I'm out of there? :!::shock::sad:

>> Death <<

Hi. Great to hear that you keep to the limits on the roads :D

As for speeding on a Pendolino, its practically impossible as the system that controls the tilting system (TASS - Tilt Authorisation and Speed Supervision) would have your nose against the windcreen if you went above 130mph as it brought you to a grinding halt!!

I wouldnt let your learning difficulty stop you applying though, but you know yourself best - do what your heart tells you!
 

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Hail All! <D
Hi. Great to hear that you keep to the limits on the roads :D

As for speeding on a Pendolino, its practically impossible as the system that controls the tilting system (TASS - Tilt Authorisation and Speed Supervision) would have your nose against the windcreen if you went above 130mph as it brought you to a grinding halt!!
Ahh...I forgot that any modern design of train would most likely have a speed restrictor fitted! :lol:
Does that 130mph still restriction apply on the Trent Valley section though? Personally, if I was driving a train along there I'd be aimimg to meet the 140mph limit - Provided the prevailing conditions (Good visibility and nothing more than light rain/wind) meant that it would be perfectly safe to do so. :)

On the other hand though; If there is one train that I would love to have a bash at driving along as fast as I could, it would be 370006 (The last remaining APT) with both power-cars along the WCML from Euston to Glasgow Ctl. From what I remember, they once got her up to about 165mph along that route...And if I had a fully cleared line at the time, I reckon that I could get her going well over the 200mph mark! <D
(Indeed: I'm dreaming of the day when she'll be up and running again...And in a race between her and a Pendolino from Euston to Glasgow (With me driving the APT! <D), she'll reach Glasgow first...With the Pendo still chugging it's merry way through Wolverhampton as I arrive in Glasgow! :D8-))

As far as I know...Although the 370s had C-APT (Control: Advanced Passenger Train) fitted, because most - If not all - Of the C-APT "plates" will have been removed by now, the system would not limit train speed at all, mainly because (I think) the C-APT system was designed in such a way that the train would still be able to run normally if diverted onto lines without C-APT fitted. :)
I wouldnt let your learning difficulty stop you applying though, but you know yourself best - do what your heart tells you!
To be perfectly honest; I'm in the mind that if I can legally and safely drive a motor vehicle up to 3.5t on the public highway (I've had no accidents yet - Touch wood! 8-)), then I should be perfectly safe with a train as they don't require steering, and the route is selected by the signalling/routing systems already in place. 8-)
To roll it up into a very basic (And uncomprehensive) summary: All I'd need to do is make sure that my train is travelling at a safe speed, and that it's running along the roads that it's been booked to run on. Meaning that if my train was to go off-route (Say I'm driving a Waterloo - Alton service, but the points at Pirbright Jct are set to route me towards Farnborough Main as I approach) all I'd need to do is bring the train to a safe halt and call up the local signal box to inform them of the problem and request further instructions. :)

I've already tried to get into driving once before...I was joining SWT as booking office staff for a couple of years, then do an internal transfer to driving - Possibly via non-commercial Guard - Once the time was right. However, although I managed to pass SWTs aptitude and written tests fine, I wasn't selected for employment for some reason! :(

Although, dare I ask...How would ye all feel about taking a train that was driven by "Death"? :shock::lol::D

--- First post above/Second post below: ---
I wouldn't bother getting your hopes up. FL moved the goal posts a few days ago....
Freightliner said:
Thank you to everyone who applied, and if you haven't yet received your application packs, please be patient as due to the high demand you may not receive your pack immediately. Those who live more than an hour from the stated depots will also be filtered in the application process.

You now have until Thursday 27 March 2008 to return the completed application form and questionnaire to Freightliner.
Basically, if you don't live in NW London, the West Midlands or Cheshire, you've no chance .....
When they say "Those who live more than an hour from the stated depots...", what method of transport are they basing their timings on? :|

After all: I guess that it'd take me a good two hours or so to drive into outer London from Milton Keynes, but a Pendo going at normal speed can often do the same journey (To Central London) in about 20-40 minutes, depending on how clear the line is. :shock::roll::?

Do they automatically assume that everyone will be driving into work? After all, I'm sure there are plenty of fully-qualified and long-standing train drivers out there who've never ever held a car driving licence or taken the driving test, and probabally never intend to! :roll:

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If You're scottish, FSR always want drivers if IRRC
They do, but won't consider anyone who lives south of the border though :roll:
Isn't that effectively racism on FSRs part? :shock::sad:

Although I could well understand them refusing to take me on at the moment (As Farnborough is a fair old commute from Glasgow Central! :lol:) I wouldn't accept such a rejection at all if I was willing to move up to somewhere within reasonable reach of my "home" depot! :shock::roll::?

Farewell... <D
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Isn't that effectively racism on FSRs part? :shock::sad:

Although I could well understand them refusing to take me on at the moment (As Farnborough is a fair old commute from Glasgow Central! :lol:) I wouldn't accept such a rejection at all if I was willing to move up to somewhere within reasonable reach of my "home" depot! :shock::roll::?

I've never heard of that! I know a few guards who are from the North of England (originally) and I don't know how they got up here (if they applied before or after they moved to Scotland) but they are working in Glasgow.

I would also imagine that English drivers do exist as I would have thought that some are based in Carlisle? Given that it is the terminus point of quite a few journeys. (Of course, Carlisle-Newcastle is done by Northern crew for obvious reasons).
 

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Although, dare I ask...How would ye all feel about taking a train that was driven by "Death"? :shock::lol::D
I'd have two of the three '9's dialled into my phone ready...:lol:

Nah, I'm joking.
Why are you joking? I rode past him on my Scoot yesterday and for some reason neither of my brakes were effective in slowing me down until I had gone well past the bus stop at which he was standing.

Isn't that right, 'Death'? ;)

As for the timing to get to/from your depot, I'd expect that it is based on driving. Obviously if you are booked to work the first or last train of the day then in most cases getting to work on public transport is not really an option.
 

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Hail again! <D
Why are you joking? I rode past him on my Scoot yesterday and for some reason neither of my brakes were effective in slowing me down until I had gone well past the bus stop at which he was standing.
Isn't that right, 'Death'? ;)
Well...Let's just say I'm glad that the bus I got on board a couple of minutes afterwards didn't have the same brakes as your scooter! :lol::D:razz:
(Especially given that the average Stagecoach single-decker probabally weighs in at about 30x the weight of thy scooter! :shock:)
As for the timing to get to/from your depot, I'd expect that it is based on driving. Obviously if you are booked to work the first or last train of the day then in most cases getting to work on public transport is not really an option.
If they were to re-lay one of the old sidings at Farnborough Main, I wonder if I could use it as a parking space for my own private 159 if ever I could get hold of one? At least then I could get into work using something like public transport, whatever my start time! :shock::D:razz:
(Dream on, Death! :lol:)

Farewell... <D
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Hi just been reading about this and I can't believe I missed it!
I was under the impression that freightliner only took on qualified drivers.
Does anyone know if they were taking on at Doncaster. I'm in chesterfield so if I didn't have a chance anyway I'll not be so ****ed off about it
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Nope, FL aren't taking on drivers for depots this side of the Pennines. (I've been looking as well.)
 

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i really want to become a train driver, but i dont know how to get into it or where to start can anyone help me ?
 

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i really want to become a train driver, but i dont know how to get into it or where to start can anyone help me ?

There is plenty of advice on this and other forums. Do a quick search and Im sure you will find all the infomation you need. But in general, it is VERY hard to get a trainee driving coming "off the street" so your best bet is to get any job on the railway (platform staff, guard etc) and hope to work your way up.

And Death, no offence, but being at the controls of a train is nothing like driving a car so your analogy there does not quite hold true.
 

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...it is VERY hard to get a trainee driving coming "off the street" so your best bet is to get any job on the railway (platform staff, guard etc) and hope to work your way up.

Dan, the above advice from GB sounds crazy, but unfortunately it's true. I firmly believe it shouldn't be like that but it is.
 
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hello every one,

could you please help me out, i am a bus driver, and looking forward to be a train driver, now i want to know where to apply and how, or where can i get training.
would be appericiate
 

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Training can only be done once your actually employed by either a FOC or a TOC....ie, there is no course you can do at your own expense that will help.

You can pay for the drivers assesment yourself however you should think very carefully about going down this route as 1) It will cost you in the region of £150-£200 2) You only ever get two attempts at the tests so if you should fail, it can go against you and 3) even if you pass there is no guarentee the company you apply for will accept it and may make you do them again.

As for where to start, your best bet is to write to different companies and go from there. Failing that go for an entry level job to get your foot in the door and work your way up.

Sadly these days there is no quick solution to getting into the driving grade unless you are very very lucky.
 
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