Trainee driver pass rate %

[ItchyRsole]

Does anyone know what the pass rate is once someone gets on a trainee driver course or a rough guess?

The reason I ask is on my interview I did ask the question and the man interviewing me said in the last 4 years of him in the job only 3 people had failed and that was down to their attitude and lack of application and not the course itself.

Made me think the pass rate is very very high despite the course being very difficult.

 

[Need2]

Does anyone know what the pass rate is once someone gets on a trainee driver course or a rough guess?

The reason I ask is on my interview I did ask the question and the man interviewing me said in the last 4 years of him in the job only 3 people had failed and that was down to their attitude and lack of application and not the course itself.

Made me think the pass rate is very very high despite the course being very difficult.

I don’t know the figures but the pass rate is extremely high.
What the interviewer says about the reasons for those failing are spot on.
In the past 5 years at my toc only 1 didn’t make it but he was a complete and utter Mickey taker and thought he could turn up when he thought and go home when he felt like it.
If you put the time and effort in then everyone will help you to pass.

 

[43066]

Example I’ve given before on here. My rules course of eight, five ended up with keys. One failed the exams (and had a terrible attitude), one basically disappeared for reasons that were never completely clear, one was given two attempts it his final assessment but then sadly let go due to lack of ability.

Most pass but there is a minority who don’t - also a minority who pass out and fairly quickly find themselves removed from the grade. It’s also absolutely true (and right) that managers and assessors will do their best for those with a good attitude but do less for those who can’t be bothered. Attitude is everything and it’s noticeable that, despite the competitive application process, quite a few slip through the net who develop a sense of entitlement quite quickly!

Not to scare anyone, just to advise people to take it seriously!

 

[ItchyRsole]

Mad ain’t it. Such a difficult thing to achieve just getting on a course and then you get people who take the p… just can’t get my head around it myself.

As you guys said, it does sound like if you give it 110% you’ll be offered every opportunity to pass.

 

[Efini92]

Example I’ve given before on here. My rules course of eight, five ended up with keys. One failed the exams (and had a terrible attitude), one basically disappeared for reasons that were never completely clear, one was given two attempts it his final assessment but then sadly let go due to lack of ability.

Most pass but there is a minority who don’t - also a minority who pass out and fairly quickly find themselves removed from the grade. It’s also absolutely true (and right) that managers and assessors will do their best for those with a good attitude but do less for those who can’t be bothered. Attitude is everything and it’s noticeable that, despite the competitive application process, quite a few slip through the net who develop a sense of entitlement quite quickly!

Not to scare anyone, just to advise people to take it seriously!

I’ve found in the last couple of years that attitude and sense of entitlement has gotten worse.

 

[baz962]

Mad ain’t it. Such a difficult thing to achieve just getting on a course and then you get people who take the p… just can’t get my head around it myself.

As you guys said, it does sound like if you give it 110% you’ll be offered every opportunity to pass.

During my training my father and an uncle both passed away a week apart. I like everyone in my group had a good attitude. Even though I had a month that I didn't revise and admitted to, as I just couldn't focus I got helped by both the driver management team and the ops trainers. I was offered to drop back a course if I wanted, to give me more time and leaving my two lives intact. And I'm very grateful. Also in the last four to five years , I only heard of around three failing. Give it your best and do the homework and you will be fine.

 

[ItchyRsole]

During my training my father and an uncle both passed away a week apart. I like everyone in my group had a good attitude. Even though I had a month that I didn't revise and admitted to, as I just couldn't focus I got helped by both the driver management team and the ops trainers. I was offered to drop back a course if I wanted, to give me more time and leaving my two lives intact. And I'm very grateful. Also in the last four to five years , I only heard of around three failing. Give it your best and do the homework and you will be fine.

That’s terrible mate

Really sorry to hear that but you must be one tough cookie. That’s real strength fair play to you mate.

 

[T-Karmel]

On my course we've been told they trained over 700 drivers and only 12 didn't make it. All for reasons mentioned above.

 

[wobman]

At some tocs there's a big recruitment drive and due to that the % of trainees failing has risen, unfortunately HR & recruitment consultants took over.
They bypassed DTM & DMs views on trainees from the interviews, then they found out the DTMS & DMs knew there stuff.

My advice has always been keep your head down & work hard, work together as a group as your all in the same boat with different strengths/ weaknesses.
Help each other out and ask questions if your not sure, there's no such thing as a stupid question. Probably others in the class are thinking the same as you but won't admit it.

The trainers won't you to pass & will help you if they see your trying your best, unfortunately there will be the trainees that have poor attitudes but they will get found out.

 

[WrongRoad]

I’ve found in the last couple of years that attitude and sense of entitlement has gotten worse.

I think people are attracted to the money and don’t realise what’s involved to get it. Once the training starts they suddenly realise that a lot of work is involved and find working and studying for that money is just not for them.

 

[wobman]

I think people are attracted to the money and don’t realise what’s involved to get it. Once the training starts they suddenly realise that a lot of work is involved and find working and studying for that money is just not for them.

There's no short cuts whilst training,if you copy or plagiarise you will get found out. People go on about how you don't require a degree to be a train driver, but people with degrees sometimes struggle whilst training.

My coursework was very time consuming, it was homework most nights & my course was a commute to a hotel Sunday then return home Friday evening after a week in a hotel.
That lasted 12 weeks & then it was my local depot luckily for my traction training, it was a hard slog & my training finished after 12 months.

 

[YingYing]

Agree with all that's been said so far. Trainers are very good at their job and when someone on the course has been struggling it's immediately picked up on and they'll do their best to help you. They will mirror the effort you put in. I think as WrongRoad has said some people apply thinking you just pull a few handles and press some buttons for a big salary. If you commit to doing your revision outside of the classroom, the order you learn things is very logical and a good steady rate.

 

[ItchyRsole]

Some good advice and pointers here

 

[Papa]

The pass rate is very high. It's a course with a lot of support and assessments to measure progress, and no one will be left behind. It's not difficult conceptually but a very high volume of information and a lot self study is required. Put in the work and you will very likely pass.

 

[Evolution]

As others have mentioned the pass rate is usually high, out of 12 on my course one failed the rules course (poor attitude). One person had a number of incidents within their first year and was removed from the grade.

Generally, if you put the work in and revise for any exams and listen to your instructors, you should pass.

And, no question is a silly question, don’t be afraid to speak up and ask if you aren’t sure!

Enjoy the ride!

 

[ItchyRsole]

Attitude getting mentioned a lot! Lol

 

[Dieseldriver]

Attitude getting mentioned a lot! Lol

Yep, and it is very true. Every single person who has passed the application stage, passed the sift, passed the psychometrics, passed the structured interview, passed the managers interview and passed the medical to end up on a trainee course has the ability. The rest is up to the candidate, as long as you apply yourself, work hard and are honest with yourself and your trainers about your weaknesses, you’ll be fine.

 

[Newapplicant]

It's very much like the police, the process you go through to become a police officer these days is very similar to that of a train driver and when you finally make it to training school the last thing you want to do is blow it by becoming entitled or not putting in the work.

There is a saying that follows around in the police, much like anywhere really but it's "what you put in, is what you'll get out" and that's followed me all throughout my policing career.

Don't allow yourself to get through the application stage and then throw it away either because you're not putting in the much needed effort or because you believe the hard work is done as believe me from what I've read on here the hard work is only just beginning.

 

[ComUtoR]

Attitude getting mentioned a lot! Lol

Funny in what way ?

 

[skyhigh]

I was told on my first day on the railway "put the effort in, don't lie and don't steal and you'll be fine". I think that's a pretty good rule to follow. Do the work and you'll be fine with driver training, but it won't be easy and you will find yourself pushed.

 

[ItchyRsole]

Funny in what way ?

That people would work so hard to get into such a position to then blow it by having a poor attitude. Ridiculous.

Does that explain it for you?

 

[ComUtoR]

Does that explain it for you?

Yes. Thank you.