Train Planning

[leomartin125]

When planning a new train service, who does the Operator pitch the draft to? The DfT or Network Rail? Or both?

Cheers,
Leo

 

[Wilts Wanderer]

Without going into the complexities too much, any operator has the right to bid for paths provided they have also applied for the relevant access rights to run that service. The timetable would be worked up internally within the TOC/FOC's own timetabling office and then detailed path application (known as a 'bid') is submitted to Network Rail planning department via the industry process.

If you are interested, I suggest trying to get hold of the Network Code which sets out all the requirements of the bid process (and the subsequent NR response which is called an Offer.) It may be on the NR website?

 

[The Planner]

Part D is the bit you want, any bid for over and above their normal rights has to go through a SOAR panel (sale of access rights) where NR can say no to the proposal before it evens gets to a bid.

 

[CheeseOnToast]

I'd have let the word "bid" slip until someone mentioned Part D, known officially as an "Access Proposal"!

Part D is available if you google it

 

[Bald Rick]

If it's a brand new service, the first place they pitch it to is their board, to see if it is worthwhile.

Then NR for Paths
Then DfT for franchise amendment (if the operator is a franchisee)
ORR only get involved if there is an issue re the paths, which there always is.

 

[Expression357]

If it's a brand new service, the first place they pitch it to is their board, to see if it is worthwhile.

Then NR for Paths
Then DfT for franchise amendment (if the operator is a franchisee)
ORR only get involved if there is an issue re the paths, which there always is.

Still have to go to the ORR - as the Track Access Agreement (TAA) would have to be changed; this requires industry consultation and even if the whole industry is in agreeement, the ORR still has to sign off on the new TAA.

 

[Bald Rick]

Still have to go to the ORR - as the Track Access Agreement (TAA) would have to be changed; this requires industry consultation and even if the whole industry is in agreeement, the ORR still has to sign off on the new TAA.

Well yes, but it's just a rubber stamp exercise if NR and all other affected TOCs say 'yes'.

Which never happens.