Train not stopping at split point

[TonyR]

I am on the much delayed 11:16 Blackpool North train from Euston to Preston (departed 43 mins late). I have a ticket through this site split at Coventry. After the train departed they announced it was not stopping at Coventry and passengers for Coventry should change at Rugby. Question is, am I OK to stay on the train to Preston even though it now doesn’t stop at my split station?

 

[gray1404]

Yes you are fine to stay on the train. This is because the train company as decided to make a change to the timetable yet you are still travelling in accordance with your booked itinerary as you are on the selected train. Customers should not be penalised in such circumstances.

You should also claim delay repay based on your arrival time at Preston against the cost of both the tickets combined.

 

[LowLevel]

Yes, you're fine, the train is booked to call at Coventry, you won't be penalised for that.

 

[TonyR]

Thanks

 

[Haywain]

You should also claim delay repay based on your arrival time at Preston against the cost of both the tickets combined.

It was on time at Crewe.

 

[TonyR]

Unfortunately (?) it skipped 5 scheduled stations to go from 45 mins late at Rugby to 6 mins early at Stafford and thereafter on time the rest of the way. .

 

[Haywain]

Unfortunately (?) it skipped 5 scheduled stations to go from 45 mins late at Rugby to 6 mins early at Stafford and thereafter on time the rest of the way. .

A pragmatic decision by Avanti to reduce the number of people and other services affected.

 

[TonyR]

A pragmatic decision by Avanti to reduce the number of people and other services affected.

Guessing by the number of people that didn’t get off at Rugby I suspect it was the cheapest option to counter the delay-repay cost of a driver taking their break which apparently caused it. That was one expensive cup of tea!

 

[gordonthemoron]

Unfortunately (?) it skipped 5 scheduled stations to go from 45 mins late at Rugby to 6 mins early at Stafford and thereafter on time the rest of the way. .

Presumably it was diverted via the Trent Valley?

 

[Haywain]

Guessing by the number of people that didn’t get off at Rugby I suspect it was the cheapest option to counter the delay-repay cost of a driver taking their break which apparently caused it. That was one expensive cup of tea!

I'm talking about the potential effects on a lot of other services. And drivers are entitled to breaks.

 

[Kite159]

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Unfortunately (?) it skipped 5 scheduled stations to go from 45 mins late at Rugby to 6 mins early at Stafford and thereafter on time the rest of the way. .

Diverted via the Trent Valley rather than via the West Midlands. One of the frequent time saving measures used by Avanti if those London - Scotland via West Midlands are seriously late, happens in both directions. Makes sense to avoid the congestion on the mostly 2 track section from Rugby to Stafford via Birmingham where it could end up being an all station stopper if out of path.

 

[TonyR]

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Diverted via the Trent Valley rather than via the West Midlands. One of the frequent time saving measures used by Avanti if those London - Scotland via West Midlands are seriously late, happens in both directions. Makes sense to avoid the congestion on the mostly 2 track section from Rugby to Stafford via Birmingham where it could end up being an all station stopper if out of path.

Most likely. The RTT tracking goes blank between Rugby and Stafford Trent Valley Junctions.

 

[Haywain]

Most likely. The RTT tracking goes blank between Rugby and Stafford Trent Valley Junctions.

Which happens when a train is off its booked route.

 

[TonyR]

I'm talking about the potential effects on a lot of other services. And drivers are entitled to breaks.

Drivers are entitled to breaks but they’re not exactly unexpected so should be in the timetabling - unless they are very short of drivers of course.

 

[Starmill]

Drivers are entitled to breaks but they’re not exactly unexpected so should be in the timetabling - unless they are very short of drivers of course.

Of course sometimes a late start waiting a member of the train crew was because a pass ride is cancelled, a taxi which was booked no-showed, or a serious delay to the working which preceeded the break made it inevitable.

 

[Haywain]

or a serious delay to the working which preceeded the break made it inevitable.

And looking at the arrivals into Euston this morning that was probably the case.

 

[Jimini]

And looking at the arrivals into Euston this morning that was probably the case.

The issues this morning at Hanslope Junction have had a decent knock-on effect into this evening aye.

 

[185143]

I am on the much delayed 11:16 Blackpool North train from Euston to Preston (departed 43 mins late). I have a ticket through this site split at Coventry. After the train departed they announced it was not stopping at Coventry and passengers for Coventry should change at Rugby. Question is, am I OK to stay on the train to Preston even though it now doesn’t stop at my split station?

I was told by an RPI on TPE (admittedly 10 years ago, which is a bit scary...) that I'd boarded a train scheduled to call at my split point, and to stay seated and not worry about it despite us being subsequently diverted to avoid my split point.

As long as the train was supposed to call at where you split, it's fine.