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Alan1310

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hi just applied for a post with nxea haven’t herd anything yet I have a rough idea what the job entails but is there anybody with first-hand experience and the time to tell me how there day goes the q I have are

What is the interview like I have done the trainee driver assessment with FCC but failed the dots is it at all similar?

What do you do on a night shift?

Where abouts in the pecking order are you?

How much grief do you get from the customer?

Do you enjoy it?

What are the pro and cons?

What are the career prospects?

Sorry I know there are a lot of questions anyone you replies cheers for your time and thank you in advanced
 
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-- I'm not a despatcher, but as a manager I was over them for some time. Hope this helps.

What is the interview like I have done the trainee driver assessment with FCC but failed the dots is it at all similar?
It's a similar concentration test - A recorded listening test - three sounds, you have to work out if they are in the correct order, whilst answering questions about tickets from information on a data sheet. There's also a comprehension / ticket related test.

What do you do on a night shift?
'Fail to stay awake' with a very good alarm clock, and the manrail radio next to you. Friday and Saturday night can be 'fun' especially if there's buses on. Some operators add 'other duties' such as cleaning the occasional train, or going through paperwork, which somewhat spoils it.

Where abouts in the pecking order are you?
Low, but certainly not the doormat. Staff who look down their nose on others because of their grade are slowly disappearing, fortunately.

How much grief do you get from the customer?
More than most, sadly. Depends how much patience you have. Even on your worst day, it's worth remembering for every idiot, there are also 9,999 nice customers.

Do you enjoy it?
Some have done it for years, and love it. Others recognise it as a safe, steady job, with good benefits and a reliable income.

What are the pro and cons?
Steady job, always lots of overtime, often working amongst a good bunch of staff you will ending up regularly drinking yourself stupid with :) .....but can also be manic trying to see two trains out at same time, and utter chaos during disruption, as you will be the centre of attention from customers.

What are the career prospects?
Excellent starting block to progress Despatcher > Guard > Driver or Manager.
 

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I used to do Despatch for quite a long time until I moved onto Maintenance Depot Driving
What is the interview like I have done the trainee driver assessment with FCC but failed the dots is it at all similar?
The Interview can ask anything from "Describe a time you come up with a new iniative that has changed the way people do their work", to "how would you deal with disabled passengers" to "what safety aspects are there on a Despatchers role".

What do you do on a night shift?
Apart from obviously Despatching the night services, you can be organising the despatch of ECS moves which can keep you busy. Depending on the role or location you could have a radio where control gives you instructions based on alterations in the unit formations that make up certain rafts of ECS.

If the late service is late/cancelled you might have stranded passengers that you have to get home via organising road transport ( Taxis or Busses ) with Control (And you have to prove to Control that it was the railways fault that these passengers were stranded by giving them all the details) and stating how many passengers there are going to each destination.

On Friday and Saturday nights, putting up with Drunks asking you where their train is, and not understanding a thing you tell them repeatedly.
Also, passengers (Drunk or otherwise) asking at about midnight when the next train to location X is, only for you to tell them that it's at about 06:00 in the morning!!

Where abouts in the pecking order are you?

Somewhere in the middle? Certainly not at the bottom but not too high up either.

Below a Station Supervisor, Station Manager (or any other Manager higher than Station Manager), Driver, Fitter, Conductor or Controller. Above a Porter, Cleaner, Cleaner Team Leader, Gateline Assistant / RPI, Trolley Staff, Rail Response Teams, 1st Class Hosts, and any agency staff.

How much grief do you get from the customer?
Occasionally, but not nearly as much as a Conductor I would have thought, and maybe not as much as a Driver might get when things go wrong. On a station you always got backup from the BTP and other station staff if there is too much trouble, while Drivers and Guards seem to have it worse when there is trouble as they are often in the middle of nowhere.

Do you enjoy it?

It is enjoyable at times but the shifts can make you feel very tired both at work and at home.

What are the pro and cons?

Pros - Relatively easy job most of the time, your main duty (despatching trains) is not exactly hard work, the work can be satisfying, getting to work outside is good in Summer (if your in an open station), most passengers tend to be OK, every day is different, shift work although bad is more forgiving than the shifts train crew have to work.

Cons - shift work, salary is not great for todays extreme cost of living, sometimes a lot of boredom waiting around with not much happening, can be repetetive, a lot of responsibility if you make one mistake you can cause a lot of delays, working outside in Winter, occasional abuse from passengers normally Drunks and Football fans they are the worst.

Also you sometimes get to work with other despatchers/station supervisors but it depends who you're on with, sometimes it can be a good thing sometimes bad.

Like with most jobs I've done, one day you can have a great day, then the next day a bad one.

What are the career prospects?

Normally very good especially if you want to be a Conductor. You can also go Driving but its harder to achieve, or work at a Maintenance Depot as a Fitters Mate training to be a Fitter. Also known a few to become a Station Supervisor.
 
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Very interesting read. Now I'm going for a gateline position with a train dispatch assessment so where does that put me?
 

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Occasionally, but not nearly as much as a Conductor I would have thought, and maybe not as much as a Driver might get when things go wrong. On a station you always got backup from the BTP and other station staff if there is too much trouble, while Drivers and Guards seem to have it worse when there is trouble as they are often in the middle of nowhere.

In my experience, station staff get the most abuse from passengers. I have worked as station staff, as a guard and as a driver. The biggest cause of angry passengers tends to be when diversions are on due to engineering, especially when something goes wrong like a bus doesn't turn up on time or a whole bunch of passengers miss their connection due to something running late. Dispatchers, announcers and ticket office staff get loads then. Ticket office staff probably get the most, but they have no risk of physical assault. Dispatchers also can get abuse when a passenger is late for a train, misses it and decides it is everybody elses fault.
Train crew get surprisingly little because most people are happy when they are on the train. Drivers can go weeks, months even, without speaking to a passenger.

All that said, 99.9% of passengers are great and there are people who will go through their entire careers without having any kind of major confrontation. You do need to be a people person to deal with passengers, you do need to be assertive and you need to be able to display empathy. When we hear about staff having 'serious' run ins with passengers it always tends to be the same two or three people. Probably because they dont have the personality type to diffuse situations before they get hairy.

In short, a dispatcher is a great job. It is relatively secure, you get a good pension, shifts aside it is fairly easy and it has great scope for promotion. Lots of dispatchers go on to become train crew, usually guards but sometimes drivers and of course, a lot of guards who become drivers were once station staff. I can think of dozen examples at my relatively small depot off the top of my head.
 

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Pay is good too let's face it.

Those who don't handle passengers well do they face disciplinaries?
 

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Depends on what you mean by "dont handle passengers too well" I guess. You certainly shouldnt be rude to passengers, if that is what you are asking.

While the reason a dispatcher is on the platform is to ensure the safe and prompt departure of trains, customer service is a huge part of the job and has been for some time. Front line staff are the face of the company and it is important to be polite and helpful. When you are new to the job or just making enquiries before you apply you probably will hear the horror stories and about the rude passengers but they are such a small part of the job it is almost trivial. You can have a good laugh doing the job and you will meet a ton of genuinely interesting people.

I know this varies from company to company, but out of curiosity, what is the average basic salary for a dispatcher these days?
 

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Train crew get surprisingly little because most people are happy when they are on the train. Drivers can go weeks, months even, without speaking to a passenger.

It looks like it was a commonly held misconception at the place I worked then. They used to say "you get more abuse if you become train crew due to lack of backup". Since you've done all 3 (Station staff, Guard and Driver) I'll believe what you say.

Pay is good too let's face it

Its not bad for what you do, the pay was about double the minimum wage when I did it, and much higher still if you worked weekend overtime. Yet you will find many minimum wage jobs that are a lot harder.

Those who don't handle passengers well do they face disciplinaries?

Only know one incident where this happened, during disruption he was shouting and swearing at passengers while management were there. He got suspended for a while and then put on a customer service course before being allowed to come back. He still has not changed and still shouts at passengers, maybe not swearing at them in front of managers anymore though.
If you don't cause trouble with passengers, and provide accurate information to answer various enquiries, then you will not face any disciplinaries relating to passengers, but you may face disciplinaries for other reasons.
Most disciplinaries that people get are for causing delays. For example, "missing" trains is the most common one. Another one is Despatching on a red - one of the most serious mistakes you would get disciplined if you get caught. Those are the two most easily made mistakes that can lead to disciplinaries and either of them can be caused by lack of concentration, or lacking timetable knowledge in the case of "missing" trains.
One person got disciplined for despatching an ECS with only one unit when he was told by Control to ask the driver to couple the two units together before sending out. Another person got disciplined for reporting a tail light was not lit on a freight train when really it was (after the driver had stopped his train that was snaking across several busy junctions, walked a mile to check the tail light on the rear wagon and back to his loco, and causing about 500 delay minutes in the process!).
 
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It looks like it was a commonly held misconception at the place I worked then. They used to say you get more abuse as train crew due to lack of backup. Since you've done all 3 (Station staff, guard and driver) I'll believe what you say.

Bear in mind I am a sample size of just one, but I have found that most of the reasons that cause passengers to get cross tend happen on the station rather than on the train. Trains being late, trains being cancelled, connections being missed all tend to happen on the dispatchers watch. Once passengers get on the train they do tend to be quite happy, though I do concede if you do get a nutter on the train you have a lot less options than you would on a station.
 

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About £19-20k near me as well but only when you add the shift enhancements on. This is still for a only 35 hour week though.
 
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