TOX jailed

[jon0844]

Good hes been put inside for this, his TOX tags are like a plague over London. Ill wait and see whether we will start seeing TOX13 tags around when hes released in 2013 (although it would most probably be earlier for "good behaviour").

We will see TOX12, mark my words.

I don't believe the claim that all the tags were copycats, but a sizable number would have been.

 

[bnm]

And just to reiterate, Daniel Halpin will be released in 2012.

27 month sentence from today equals a maximum of 13½ months in custody. Less any time on remand and a potential 4½ months on Home Detention Cufew.

 

[SteveP29]

Don't think I've seen any of his stuff in a while, the scene seems to have changed in the past few years.

At least we don't (yet?) have the same scale of graffiti problem that NYC had in the 70s/80s.

I dare say that's because it's never been removed/ cleaned up and you're that used to seeing it, you don't notice it anymore

 

[Yew]

I dare say that's because it's never been removed/ cleaned up and you're that used to seeing it, you don't notice it anymore

If you leave it long enough, someone will paint over it for you ^^

There is some near the north entrance that can look pretty good, vibrant colours and funky fonts. However when its just TOX written in dribbling white spraypaint, then its just vandalisim

 

[AlexS]

As I said, it is very difficult to get habitual offenders to stop offending. I've seen enough people who do nothing but bob in and out of prison for a reasonable chunk of their lives, before expiring at some undefinable point. You can offer help and assistance but if they're broken quite often they're broken. Although it is, I will admit, amazing sometimes what improvement a small amount of kindness and human decency aimed towards a person can achieve.

'Promoting talent' is all well and good but the issues at hand are generally symptomatic of a wider problem which you may not be able to solve.

Giving people walls to write on is unlikely to solve the problem.

So if you can't make someone behave over a long period of time, where do you go and what do you do? Is it acceptable for society as a whole to allow someone to cost what could be said to be far above their worth in return simply because they can't/won't change, and at what stage should you give up?

 

[lookingforit35]

TOX TOX TOX TOX TOX TOX TOX TOX TOX TOX TOX TOX TOX etc

That was the view for much of my commute for a considerable term. So you'll forgive me I hope if I fail to understand what is "artistic" about tagging. I'm not a fan of graffitti although I do accept it requires skill and can indeed be seen as art. But tagging? No, it needs only as much ability as is required to write three letters repetitively.

 

[the sniper]

Don't think anyone's mentioned this in this thread so far, but shortly after 'Tox' was arrested, Banksy did this on a wall not far from where 'Tox' lives: http://londonist.com/2011/06/new-banksy-street-art-mentions-tox.php

The amusing irony though, while Tox's graffiti gets him nowhere but prison, Banksy's graffiti gets protected by a perspex cover and CCTV coverage within days of it going up... http://www.flickr.com/photos/unusual_image/5888874079/

I think Tox has been in the wrong line of 'art'.

 

[BestWestern]

Don't think anyone's mentioned this in this thread so far, but shortly after 'Tox' was arrested, Banksy did this on a wall not far from where 'Tox' lives: http://londonist.com/2011/06/new-banksy-street-art-mentions-tox.php

The amusing irony though, while Tox's graffiti gets him nowhere but prison, Banksy's graffiti gets protected by a perspex cover and CCTV coverage within days of it going up... http://www.flickr.com/photos/unusual_image/5888874079/

I think Tox has been in the wrong line of 'art'.

This really p*sses me off.... This moron who likes to be called 'Banksy' - his real name is not a secret - is a big part of the problem, and I find it incredible that our misguided society, with it's deeply damaged view of 'celebrity', does everything possible to glorify his blatantly illegal behaviour, which now clearly involves attempting to promote the efforts of other offenders as well. Brilliant. So once 'Tox' is released perhaps he will now make his fortune too, if he can just manage to come up with something slightly more inventive in the future. This man's prison sentence will now be a total waste of time, thanks to 'Banksy' bathing him in his own misguided glory. Perhaps 'Banksy' would be kind enough to reimburse the tax payer out of the fortune he has doubtless made through being a law breaking vandal? For Christ's sake, just go and arrest the idiot, please :roll:

It really comes to something when we start installing sheets of reinforced glass to protect illegal damage to people's property. And we then wonder why we have teenagers daubing their own unintelligible scrawls all over the place. It gave me enormous satisfaction to read the recent story of the Banksy vandalism which was, itself, vandalised, and partly scrubbed away. If we could just to the same to the rest of his, ahem, 'work', and then lock him up, that'd be grand

 

[Wyvern]

Hear hear

 

[AlterEgo]

It really comes to something when we start installing sheets of reinforced glass to protect illegal damage to people's property.

If Banksy drew on my wall I'd cover it over with perspex too - it would increase the value of my house.

At least Banksy is witty; a talented artist who at least tries to provide some kind of contemporary social commentary with each piece.

 

[jon0844]

I doubt many people will pay to look at TOX 'works of art'. They'll see a wall with TOX written on it and think it's his signature and ask 'so where's the picture?'!

 

[talltim]

It is horrible sitting on a train and looking over to see something written that serves no purpose and borders on mindless vandalism. The content of which makes people feel uncomfortable about their surroundings and instills fear in everyone.

And, even though TOX and others are now in jail, the harsh reality is that I am still likely to be unfortunate enough to stumble upon a copy of the Daily Mail on trains in the future.

Brilliant post

 

[87015]

http://87015aewn.wordpress.com/2011/05/30/bulgaria-2011-part-1/dscf6662/

Made me giggle

 

[TDK]

Let's get this in perspective, he's a vandal not a serial killer!

Of course, if you're willing for your taxes to go up to pay for keeping more prisoners. We'll have to build more prisons - perhaps one near you?

So, let him off? I think they should have cut his hands off

 

[BestWestern]

If Banksy drew on my wall I'd cover it over with perspex too - it would increase the value of my house.

At least Banksy is witty; a talented artist who at least tries to provide some kind of contemporary social commentary with each piece.

I accept the usual argument hear about him being a 'talented artist' etc, but I'm afraid that doesn't excuse him runnin around defacing other people's property, it is utterly irrelevant. Should the justice system first decide if the offender was a 'talented artist' before deciding whether to proceed with a prosecution for criminal damage? If it is ok for 'Banksy' to vandalise things then surely it is grossly unfair to put Mr 'Tox' in prison?!

'Banksy' is guilty not just of vandalism and criminal damage, but also of a wider charge of glorifying this type of behaviour and cloaking what is a clearly illegal act in a misguided notion of legitimacy by trying to present it as art. His decision to glorify 'Tox', who he presumably considers to be a comrade, is incredibly stupid, and shows a total disregard for the thousands of pounds of damage this person is responsible for.