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Tickets from Garsdale

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Stewart2887

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It's probable but not certain my wife and i will travel from Garsdale this weekend for a day trip. It has no ticket office or machine, and Northern website says you must have a ticket before travel. I'm not buying in advance on the offchance we go. Reading the prosecutions thread on this forum puts me off travelling by train, I'll have a perfectly good car to use. Can we board and pay onboard?
 
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You can buy on board if the station has no ticketing facilities at all. The national rail website says Garsdale doesn’t have a ticket machine.

The guards are pro-active about it on the more rural routes.
 

Stewart2887

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This is nonsense. NR site says it has a ticket office but is unmanned. What's that all about? How do I know if there will be mobile reception there? I don't want to ruin my birthday experience with a penalty fare. The Northern rail chat is pretty crap too-nobody answers. Car it is then
 

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This is nonsense. NR site says it has a ticket office but is unmanned. What's that all about? How do I know if there will be mobile reception there? I don't want to ruin my birthday experience with a penalty fare. The Northern rail chat is pretty crap too-nobody answers. Car it is then
You can pay on board, there is no issue with it - ignore what anyone else said otherwise, all the guards on this route are familiar with the remote stations not having ticket machines. Please don't let this put you off taking the train.
 

raveon

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You could also be lucky and the guard doesn’t pass through the train before you alight ;)
 

Stewart2887

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Thanks all. I'm happy to pay-I turn 60 on Sunday, and will get a railcard in due course. Train travel is not a regular thing until maybe I retire next year
 

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I have travelled from Leeds to Carnforth today and seen several tickets issued by the guard to people boarding at stations from Gargrave to Bentham. The staff on those routes are pleasant and there is no expectation that you will already have a ticket from such stations (unlike Shipley, Bingley, Skipton etc).
 

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Are there any ticketing facilities available at any intermediate stations between Carlisle, Skipton and Carnforth, other than those at Appleby and Settle?
 

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Are there any ticketing facilities available at any intermediate stations between Carlisle, Skipton and Carnforth, other than those at Appleby and Settle?
There is not, no. Those lines are of the very few which are not subject to Northern's penalty fares policy; there is no requirement to purchase a ticket before boarding. There are no facilities to do so at most stations (including Garsdale), and no mobile signal for most providers for passengers to purchase online.
 

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The Settle to Carlisle and Bentham lines are both excluded from the Penalty Fares scheme, so if there are no ticket facilities just buy them from the guard, although I know a few stations do have ticket machines now (such as Kirkby Stephen)
 

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The rule is that you must buy a ticket before boarding where there are the facilities to do so. If you start your journey at Garsdale, there are no ticketing facilities - so there is no expectation that you buy a ticket before boarding. The Settle line is also one of the few Northern routes on which Penalty Fares don't apply.

You might find it cheaper to buy an Advance ticket through an app or online, even just a couple of minutes before you board. But that does depend on the exact journey you're making, since Advance tickets aren't available for all journeys - e.g. they're available from Garsdale to Leeds, but not Garsdale to Hellifield or Skipton. There's also poor mobile signal on most networks in that part of the world, so you may struggle to search for (let alone buy) tickets if you're waiting on the platform.

It's worth noting that if you have boarded the train without a ticket (which is entirely legitimate at Garsdale), you shouldn't then try to buy a ticket through your phone and present that ticket to the guard. You should just buy your ticket from the guard; if you buy a ticket online after boarding, the guard's device will flag this up when they scan your ticket and they might ask why you did that.
 

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Simply buy from the guard/conductor on board. He gets 5% on his on board sales so will be happy to sell you one.

However, check out the various ranger & rover tickets that might suit your journey better - it most cases these can also be bought on board.

Do get your railcard prior to travel (I would say even during travel but that's not technically allowed - but only yesterday I encouraged a young lass to purchase a railcard online & I returned later to sell her a discounted ticket). Why because a 34% discount is not to be sneezed at.
 
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