Tickets for dogs

[styles]

I was looking at a journey on the Southeastern network recently and their dog policy caught my eye.

You can travel on Southeastern services with a maximum of two small dogs on a lead or other small domestic animals free of charge. For each additional animal, a fee of half the adult fare of your ticket will be charged - up to a maximum of £5 for a single, and £10 for a return.

This is backed up to an extent by the Conditions of Travel:

24.1 You may take up to two dogs or other small domestic animals free of charge with
you unless a Train Company has set out any special conditions relating to their own
train services. In such cases these conditions will be made available when buying
your Ticket in advance and will be shown on the Train Company’s website.

What ticket/fare is actually sold in this situation?

(whether people should really be taking 3+ dogs per passenger is another matter!)

 

[kkong]

For each additional animal, a fee of half the adult fare of your ticket will be charged - up to a maximum of £5 for a single, and £10 for a return.

Would you be charged for a pet mouse carried in your pocket, while boarding with two dogs on leads?

 

[TheSel]

I was looking at a journey on the Southeastern network recently and their dog policy caught my eye.



This is backed up to an extent by the Conditions of Travel:


What ticket/fare is actually sold in this situation?

(whether people should really be taking 3+ dogs per passenger is another matter!)

A rover?

Return to Barking via Woofferton?

[I'll get me coat ...]

 

[voyagerdude220]

A rover?

Return to Barking via Woofferton?

[I'll get me coat ...]

I believe seat K-9 on Pendolinos is popular with Canine Passengers.

 

[CyrusWuff]

I was looking at a journey on the Southeastern network recently and their dog policy caught my eye.

What ticket/fare is actually sold in this situation?

None as far as I'm aware. "Accompanied Animals and Articles" tickets were withdrawn some time pre-pandemic due to low sales (I've sold precisely one in my career.)

 

[Gaelan]

What ticket/fare is actually sold in this situation?

"Half the adult fare" sounds like it might just be a child fare, though that wouldn't explain the maximum.

 

[kkong]

A rail industry information source offers the following:

Animals Conveyed for a Fee

More than two domestic animals per passenger may be conveyed at the discretion of the Train Company, and may be charged for. Each train company is responsible for setting the charges that apply to animals conveyed in these circumstances; however, it will not exceed half the adult single fare for the journey or part of the journey over which the animals(s) are being conveyed by that Train Company.

Unless the Train Company’s charging policy is stated below, assume that if at the Train Company’s discretion carriage of additional domestic animals has been permitted, then these animals are carried free of charge.

and

The products which are currently retailed at AAA (Accompanied Animals and Articles) status will be redefined by TOCs in PMS (Product Management System) as sundries, supplements or ticket types.

 

[Sun Chariot]

"More than two domestic animals per passenger may be conveyed at the discretion of the Train Company, and may be charged for"
That's a curse if you're transporting a water-filled container of tadpoles, guppy fish, etc...

 

[D1537]

I once encountered a chap with a ferret in a laptop bag on an IC225. Apparently "the bugger will escape from pretty much everything else".

 

[DaleCooper]

Do lice count as domestic animals?

 

[styles]

Do lice count as domestic animals?

I don't think staff have the powers to check for crab lice so you'll probably be fine. Head lice may be a different matter.

Edit to add: I didn't mean 'you' personally, I meant a hypothetical passenger

 

[Sun Chariot]

I don't think staff have the powers to check for crab lice so you'll probably be fine. Head lice may be a different matter.

That made me spit my drink out!

 

[CastlebarKeith]

Would you be charged for a pet mouse carried in your pocket, while boarding with two dogs on leads?

A budgie would be CHEEPER.

 

[Crithylum]

Does this mean I can use a family and friends railcard if I buy a child ticket for my pet?

 

[Wallsendmag]

Does this mean I can use a family and friends railcard if I buy a child ticket for my pet?

Only if it's under 16 at the time of purchase of the Railcard

 

[Crithylum]

Only if it's under 16 at the time of purchase of the Railcard

Unless it has turned 17 on a 3 year railcard

 

[flitwickbeds]

Would you be charged for a pet mouse carried in your pocket, while boarding with two dogs on leads?

I can't find a decent source for it beyond various blogs and Reddit, but sounds a bit like the TGV snail incident!

 

[xotGD]

Passengers from Marylebone to Birmingham can take a Cat.

 

[D6130]

I believe that dogs are conveyed free-of-charge on trains formed of class 153 units.

 

[Mcr Warrior]

I believe that dogs are conveyed free-of-charge on trains formed of class 153 units.

Hope the RSPCA don't hear of that! Avoidable cruelty to animals!

 

[Weary Walker]

Would my dog be eligible for delay repay?

 

[voyagerdude220]

Would my dog be eligible for delay repay?

Yes, a £10 Pets At Home voucher to be sent to you for the purchase of treats for your Canine.

 

[TUC]

I was looking at a journey on the Southeastern network recently and their dog policy caught my eye.



This is backed up to an extent by the Conditions of Travel:


What ticket/fare is actually sold in this situation?

(whether people should really be taking 3+ dogs per passenger is another matter!)

There is a key difference between what Southeastern says and the NRCoT. Southeastern refers to 'two small dogs on a lead or other small domestic animals' whereas the NRCoT refers to 'two dogs or other small domestic animals', which does leave one wondering about larger dogs on Southeastern (to say nothingnof 'define small')

I suspect it is sloppy drafting on Southeaster's part.

 

[styles]

There is a key difference between what Southeastern says and the NRCoT. Southeastern refers to 'two small dogs on a lead or other small domestic animals' whereas the NRCoT refers to 'two dogs or other small domestic animals', which does leave one wondering about larger dogs on Southeastern (to say nothingnof 'define small')

I suspect it is sloppy drafting on Southeaster's part.

I'll let you know how my two badgers behave on the Bromley South service next week.

 

[Egg Centric]

Only if it's under 16 at the time of purchase of the Railcard

In dog or human years?

 

[xotGD]

Ticket restriction code K9 applies.

 

[Spaceship323]

Presumably an animal with a ticket would be entitled to a reserved seat? (Whether animals should be on seats is another discussion)

 

[EYFanatic]

Given that you can get some very small examples, if a train carried a small horse/pony and the train broke, where would it be stabled?

 

[Egg Centric]

Given that you can get some very small examples, if a train carried a small horse/pony and the train broke, where would it be stabled?

Livestock and non domestic animals are against the conditions of carriage. Which given they've made the rule means someone tried (the rule is well before this guy who also did)

Personally I'd much rather have a horse in my train than say a baby chimp or python, no matter how domesticated the latter two may be.

 

[EYFanatic]

Livestock and non domestic animals are against the conditions of carriage. Which given they've made the rule means someone tried (the rule is well before this guy who also did)

Personally I'd much rather have a horse in my train than say a baby chimp or python, no matter how domesticated the latter two may be.

There is a breed of horse that's classed as domestic under UK law