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Gooner18

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I’m looking at going to Taunton at the weekend, I have a network rail card which does not cover the whole journey, so I’m going to ticket split the journey using the same train.
My question is , when ticket splitting do I have to use the Last station in the covered area the train stops at , or can I use the last station within the covered area even tho the train will not stop there but I’m already on that train.
 
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Is that correct?

Surely a day ranger / London travel card are both zonal tickets. :s
I think they meant to say that those are examples of Zonal tickets, but it came out as if they were saying the opposite.

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I’m looking at going to Taunton at the weekend, I have a network rail card which does not cover the whole journey, so I’m going to ticket split the journey using the same train.
My question is , when ticket splitting do I have to use the Last station in the covered area the train stops at , or can I use the last station within the covered area even tho the train will not stop there but I’m already on that train.
The train needs to call at the station where you change from one ticket to the next. The forum's site will take this into account automatically.
 

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That’s annoying, my plan is to go from Paddington to Taunton ( I want to visit the west Somerset railway).
The fastest train only seems to stop at Reading , so I can do a split using my network rail to Paddington , Reading then Reading to Taunton.
However it is cheaper to use the network card right up to the Limit within the covered area on the same line which is Bedwyn but the train does not stop there
 

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That’s annoying, my plan is to go from Paddington to Taunton ( I want to visit the west Somerset railway).
The fastest train only seems to stop at Reading , so I can do a split using my network rail to Paddington , Reading then Reading to Taunton.
However it is cheaper to use the network card right up to the Limit within the covered area on the same line which is Bedwyn but the train does not stop there

You can try Hungerford? Some trains stop there, or get a Kennet Valley Day Ranger which is valid to Bedwyn
 

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In practice if you want to use a railcard for part of a journey, then might need to do it as 2 separate purchases.

Most ticket sites can't cope with changing railcards at a split point in one transaction. You get same problem if you use two together railcards, but one person isn't doing whole journey.

Some trains stop beyond Reading, at Newbury, Hungerford etc

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Just had a thought, there is a Kennet day ranger.
If you use this as middle of 3 tickets, don't need to worry about train stopping.

 
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My intention is to buy two separate tickets , I was just wondering about the rail card use. I find it strange I can’t use it right up to the boarder of the covered area just because the train does not stop there.
The whole rail ticketing system/ set up seems very dated and un- paying customer friendly. Me thinks it’s time for a massive overhaul of it
 

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In practice if you want to use a railcard for part of a journey, then might need to do it as 2 separate purchases.

Most ticket sites can't cope with changing railcards at a split point in one transaction. You get same problem if you use two together railcards, but one person isn't doing whole journey.
If actually switching railcards, yes (e.g. @yorksrob travelling from Carlisle to Kent via the S&C and holding Railcards that cover the start and end of the journey ;)), but this is incredibly niche.

But our site is absolutely fine with combining discounted and non-discounted tickets.
My intention is to buy two separate tickets , I was just wondering about the rail card use. I find it strange I can’t use it right up to the boarder of the covered area just because the train does not stop there.
The whole rail ticketing system/ set up seems very dated and un- paying customer friendly. Me thinks it’s time for a massive overhaul of it
Train companies are very keen for an overhaul that increases the cost of the cheaper fares, so that it is no longer cheaper to split (or to force people to "tap out" and "tap in" again to ensure you need to "step back" a train).

If you have any ideas for a potential new ticketing system, please create a new thread in Speculative Discussion.

However, it is worth noting that the Government is not keen on any new system that would reduce revenue, so if your proposal reduces the cost of longer distance journeys, it is highly unlikely to ever happen.
 

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So, a London Terminals->Reading Off Peak Day Return (route "Any Permitted") would be £19.55 with Network Railcard discount. And the Kennet Day Ranger would be another £11.65, again with Network Railcard discount. That's potentially got the OP as far as Bedwyn, and they would have to be on a train for Taunton routed via Bedwyn rather than say via Swindon.

Is there any optimum split point where the train stops between Bedwyn and Taunton, as certain trains so seem to run fast between Reading and Taunton, otherwise the OP would likely need a Super Off Peak Return from Bedwyn to/from Taunton (route "not via Reading") (= £64.20) giving an overall total of £95.40.

Or would a Super Off Peak Return from Reading to/from Taunton (route "Any Permitted") (= £72.60) not be marginally better? Total = £92.15 with the ticket from London to Reading and forget the Kennet Day Ranger.

By comparison, the through Super Off Peak Return from London Terminals to/from Taunton (route "Any Permitted") is £103.30 (no discount).

Anything still semi-flexible but better than the above suggestions?
 

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Splitting off-peak (day) returns at Newbury slightly cheaper than Reading, I think, by about £4. But this obviously restricts you to the slow trains which, in practice, can feel almost as restrictive as having an Advance given how long you'd have to wait if you missed one.

Further splits west of Newbury may shave a further few quid off.
 
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