ticket rules

[dcsprior]

The laws have been in place since the reign of Queen Victoria, so they should not come as a shock to anybody.

If the laws were this way, they were certainly not enforced. I can remember it being considered normal to walk onto a train ticket-less safe in the knowledge you could buy one on-board without any problems

Your idea is fine in some Utopian dream, but in the real world, there are a lot of people out there who would never pay if they did not have to pay before boarding.

I don't think its a utopian dream - as I said when I travelled regularly by train about 13-15 years ago, this is how things worked. So long as enough people are employed to check/sell tickets, no-one can travel without one.

The way it is now, train companies are not providing the staff to do this, but still getting the revenue - by delaying customers in queues at ticket offices/machines/barriers before they get on the train

The role of the on-board ticket checker is not to sell tickets, it's to check tickets, and take appropriate action with people who do not have them.

I'm not disagreeing. I'm saying that their role should be to sell them, not that it is just now

On a pedantic point, it is not the primary or even secondary role of a conductor, who in the context it is used in the UK, is the Guard, a safety-critical role.

On almost half of the train journeys I make, I don't see a conductor on the train - so if this is a safety-critical role, I should perhaps be worried Having said that, I do remember there being quite a big stir when conductor-less trains were coming in somewhere (think it was the new Airdrie-Bathgate line?) so perhaps this has spread to other lines and explains this - again, less staff, so less service for us customers.

Despite only being in my early 30's, I can remember one small local bus company still having conductors when I was a child. Their role was to sell tickets, I don't understand how its unreasonable to expect the conductor on a train to do the same thing - especially when this is how it worked only a few years ago.

 

[Flamingo]

Sunday is perceived to be free travel day in South Wales by a lot of passengers, to the extent they will say "But it's Sunday, you don't need a ticket on a Sunday".
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Oh well, I suppose we should just have honesty boxes on the outside of the trains and be done with it... :roll:

 

[dcsprior]

Sunday is perceived to be free travel day in South Wales by a lot of passengers, to the extent they will say "But it's Sunday, you don't need a ticket on a Sunday".

 

[Flamingo]

I know, I hate to disillusion them

 

[Yew]

Sunday is perceived to be free travel day in South Wales by a lot of passengers, to the extent they will say "But it's Sunday, you don't need a ticket on a Sunday".

Dont let the WAG hear that!

 

[wilsontown]

Certainly TPE sell tickets on board between York and Leeds, both of which have pretty good facilities for buying tickets...

 

[ainsworth74]

Certainly TPE sell tickets on board between York and Leeds, both of which have pretty good facilities for buying tickets...

Do they sell the full range of tickets or do they only sell Anytime tickets with no railcard discounts? Because if it's the latter then that's exactly what's supposed to happen in that situation.

 

[yorkie]

TPE, like most TOCs, will sell Anytime fares on board without Railcard discounts (unless the customer travelled from an unstaffed station e.g. Burley Park to York rather than Leeds to York) in which case the full range is, of course, available.

 

[bnm]

TPE, like most TOCs, will sell Anytime fares on board without Railcard discounts (unless the customer travelled from an unstaffed station e.g. Burley Park to York rather than Leeds to York) in which case the full range is, of course, available.

And will (or should) offer Disabled Railcard holders the full range with discount on board if they have difficulty purchasing at their start station. e.g due to an inaccessible ticket office counter, non-availability of staff, and/or an
inaccessible ticket machine.

All TOCs should, as part of their DPPP, show similar discretion to disabled travellers.

 

[sheff1]

The role of the on-board ticket checker is not to sell tickets, it's to check tickets, and take appropriate action with people who do not have them.

Try telling that to the good people of Strathclyde, ticket checkers and passengers alike