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Ticket Barriers open at Reading at midday!

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Mark J

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Surprised (and annoyed) to find the main ticket gate line at Reading open at Midday.

Sundays are a fairly busy day at Reading.

How is this supposed to help revenue protection measures, and prevent ticket less travel.

The laughable thing was the ticket gate line in the old station concourse was manned - and the gates closed as they should be.
 

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Haywain

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Surprised (and annoyed) to find the main ticket gate line at Reading open at Midday.
Why are you annoyed - has it affected you or your journey?
How is this supposed to help revenue protection measures, and prevent ticket less travel.
It's obviously not intended to help revenue protection, but it's likely because of a staff shortage. How can something like short notice sickness be prevented?
 

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It could be something as simple as a passenger needing assistance so the member of staff on the gateline had to leave temporarily. The gates may well have been closed again 10 minutes later.
 

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Surprised (and annoyed) to find the main ticket gate line at Reading open at Midday.

Sundays are a fairly busy day at Reading.
Completely defeats the purpose of having them there, doesn't it. Contrast that at St Albans today, barriers in operation at 7am on Sunday. But not at St Pancras (EMR's barriers as we went into St Pancras high level, and EMR's first service leaves about 9am so I'm not surprised).

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As other posters have said it's probably temporary for a staff break or similar
 

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But not at St Pancras (EMR's barriers as we went into St Pancras high level, and EMR's first service leaves about 9am so I'm not surprised).
When Thameslink are using the high level passengers are usually directed away from the barriers anyway, probably because too many tickets would be rejected.
 

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When Thameslink are using the high level passengers are usually directed away from the barriers anyway, probably because too many tickets would be rejected.
Good point, I only thought of it time of day wise. Now you've reminded me that I don't think keyGo works with those barriers either, luckily I wasn't inadvertently testing it out today as I have a through eTicket.

These are of course the regular Sunday morning diversions so I imagine the staff know the drill.
 

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It could be something as simple as a passenger needing assistance so the member of staff on the gateline had to leave temporarily. The gates may well have been closed again 10 minutes later.
I was there at 1pm and they were manned again.
 

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On one day in the recent past that barrier was open at 6pm on a weekday, i.e. peak commuting time.

Anyone intending to evade fares could not expect that barrier to be open, so evasion would only be opportunistic.
 

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On one day in the recent past that barrier was open at 6pm on a weekday, i.e. peak commuting time.

Anyone intending to evade fares could not expect that barrier to be open, so evasion would only be opportunistic.
Seems like scope to build an app where people can report the live status of ticket barrier openings.

Probably get banned under some incitement to commit crime legislation.
 

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Shrewsbury this evening the gates were wide open at around 1845 when I went to buy some food outside the station. When i came back in 10mins later the gates were closed and being manned by one guy. Presumably he had nipped to the toilet or something and he has to leave them open while hes gone as they cant be left unattended.
 

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Barriers are left open for a very large number of reasons, but should only be open for 45 minutes max. Gateline has the highest turnover of any railway role because it's paid the lowest, so there's effectively a permanent staff shortage. Sickness could cause a hole but there's usually relief (from another station or an agency worker), but this isn't perfect as the staff are still entitled to a break. It's unsafe to leave the barriers shut and unattended, so they're open.

How is this supposed to help revenue protection measures, and prevent ticket less travel.
A lot of fare evasion is done from stations without barriers, and as @zero mentioned, how would you know the barriers are going to be open?

That’s terrible and not acceptable , I take it you’d already bought a ticket ? Have you thought about writing to your MP and DfT?
I genuinely cannot tell if this post is intended to be satirical or not. What do you expect an MP or the DfT to do? Ban staff from taking breaks when alone? I think even fewer people would be lining up for national living wage without even a lunch break. Next we're going to be complaining that the gates open for fire alarms!

Shrewsbury this evening the gates were wide open at around 1845 when I went to buy some food outside the station. When i came back in 10mins later the gates were closed and being manned by one guy. Presumably he had nipped to the toilet or something and he has to leave them open while hes gone as they cant be left unattended.
Precisely. The person operating the gates is required to leave them open if they are going to go somewhere that takes more than 5 seconds to reach the gates.
 

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Not sure what there is to be annoyed about? It's not unique to Reading. For example, I've been at Kings Cross on multiple occasions when the gates are open,
 

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Seems like scope to build an app where people can report the live status of ticket barrier openings.
TfL monitor barrier openings, and it's led to an ever greater rate of barriers being left closed unattended, something else the forum loves to complain about. I'd far rather the barriers are left open when the staff member needed to temporarily, than be stuck in stations as I have been with TfL.
 

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TfL monitor barrier openings, and it's led to an ever greater rate of barriers being left closed unattended, something else the forum loves to complain about. I'd far rather the barriers are left open when the staff member needed to temporarily, than be stuck in stations as I have been with TfL.
Absolutely.
 
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North exit barriers at Reading are routinely unattended and open on Sundays. More than half the time in my recent experience.
 
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