Three Bridges ROC opens: Video

[Stats]

Video inside the new ROC at Three Bridges.
http://www.crawleyobserver.co.uk/ne...ting-centre-opened-at-three-bridges-1-5792230

 

[Monty]

They all seem very proud of themselves, can't wait to see what happens when it goes down the toilet and the whole of the old Central Division is in complete disarray. At least with traditional boxes and smaller signalling panels if you had a problem it was isolated to a specific area. Eggs and basket come to mind..

 

[tsr]

Have they had a fire drill yet?

 

[neilm]

When does it actually get used for signalling?

 

[TheKnightWho]

They all seem very proud of themselves, can't wait to see what happens when it goes down the toilet and the whole of the old Central Division is in complete disarray. At least with traditional boxes and smaller signalling panels if you had a problem it was isolated to a specific area. Eggs and basket come to mind..

Didn't they say exactly the same thing when the smaller signalling panels were introduced over traditional boxes?

 

[JohnB57]

Eggs and basket come to mind..

Wasn't that the way they used to deliver eggs in the Victorian era?

 

[Monty]

Didn't they say exactly the same thing when the smaller signalling panels were introduced over traditional boxes?

The areas the panels took over from the more traditional were still relatively small geographical areas for the most part. The area the ROCs will cover is unprecedented. The South Western Division (SWT) for example, it's bad enough when Wimbledon Panel goes down, but can you imagine losing Feltham, Woking, Guildford and Basingstoke panels at the same time?

 

[bigdelboy]

They all seem very proud of themselves, can't wait to see what happens when it goes down the toilet and the whole of the old Central Division is in complete disarray. At least with traditional boxes and smaller signalling panels if you had a problem it was isolated to a specific area. Eggs and basket come to mind..

All these big central signal boxes, when the're all right their all right; but when the're wrong then then are very wrong.

( I was told this by a small Irish farmer talking about intensive farming .... but I've seen it apply to a lot of things .... computer SANs and raid disk controllers ... class 50 diesels .... unmanned level crossings .... when the new fangled centrallised complex things works it works really well, but when when it goes belly up on the very odd occasion it causes too big an impact to manage ).

 

[carriageline]

If you believe the railway grapevine, there is already problems with the building! Mainly layout and design

 

[Geeves]

I believe they will still have back up panels in some locations, just in case such a scenario does happen. It will also have a back up generator, but hey, time will tell!

 

[jopsuk]

The area the ROCs will cover is unprecedented.

only in this country. The UK is not leading the world with this approach.

 

[Class377/5]

Bloody hell you don't see much. Of the main floor you see around half of it including our desks.

Note this is the 1st with identical space above along with a ground floor for the actual hardware.

Most of the talking wasn't on the operating floor but one of the training rooms of to the side (right hand side of the camera pan).

For the record the ROC has survived a local power cut that took out the housing and industry in the area and kept going with no computer systems affected in any way. So all this doom and gloom is quite frankly silly and already proven wrong.

Oh don't believe the railway gossip. Nothing wrong with building itself. Layout internally can change and it was designed that way.

 

[LateThanNever]

Bloody hell you don't see much. Of the main floor you see around half of it including our desks.

For the record the ROC has survived a local power cut that took out the housing and industry in the area and kept going with no computer systems affected in any way. So all this doom and gloom is quite frankly silly and already proven wrong.

That's impressive. But it is still important to ensure a lightning strike at head office doesn't knock out the whole area - when the rest of the region has been bathed in sunshine! Presumably they've got rigorous local back up -unlike Mr Prescott's centralised fire control where in effect if Bristol was out Birmingham took over but with no local knowledge, staffing under extreme pressure and communications in hope! Centralising the control will ipso facto increase the risk of complete failure so the back up systems have to be very, very rigorous. Let's hope they are!
Other countries may use centralised systems but they do not have Britain's intensity of service. (On a similar note I believe there is a Frenchwoman employed by the Department of Transport to look after London motorway signalling signage who has said that it is not like her previous post in Paris because what she sanctions in London has quick repercussions in the Midlands, the North West and the far off M4 corridor!)

 

[Ironside]

Bloody hell you don't see much. Of the main floor you see around half of it including our desks.

Note this is the 1st with identical space above along with a ground floor for the actual hardware.

Most of the talking wasn't on the operating floor but one of the training rooms of to the side (right hand side of the camera pan).

For the record the ROC has survived a local power cut that took out the housing and industry in the area and kept going with no computer systems affected in any way. So all this doom and gloom is quite frankly silly and already proven wrong.

Oh don't believe the railway gossip. Nothing wrong with building itself. Layout internally can change and it was designed that way.

Glad to here its all working well and is robust, very good news indeed.

 

[Class377/5]

That's impressive. But it is still important to ensure a lightning strike at head office doesn't knock out the whole area - when the rest of the region has been bathed in sunshine! Presumably they've got rigorous local back up -unlike Mr Prescott's centralised fire control where in effect if Bristol was out Birmingham took over but with no local knowledge, staffing under extreme pressure and communications in hope! Centralising the control will ipso facto increase the risk of complete failure so the back up systems have to be very, very rigorous. Let's hope they are!
Other countries may use centralised systems but they do not have Britain's intensity of service. (On a similar note I believe there is a Frenchwoman employed by the Department of Transport to look after London motorway signalling signage who has said that it is not like her previous post in Paris because what she sanctions in London has quick repercussions in the Midlands, the North West and the far off M4 corridor!)

Considering the gear they've got and the thought gone into it, its a robust system.

Glad to here its all working well and is robust, very good news indeed.

Nothing tests a system like real life!

 

[carriageline]

Do you work for Network Rail mate? Or are southern in there too?

 

[andy19_64]

Southern Control, Fleet Control, CIS and i think a few FCC are based at the roc.

 

[Class377/5]

Southern Control, Fleet Control, CIS and i think a few FCC are based at the roc.

Basically everyone who was at Croydon moved.

I'm not stating who I work for.