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Update. Ditherers,Dawdlers and people with all the time in the world when I'm in a hurry.
As mentioned previously on this thread, noisy people in the quiet coach really get me wound up. Why do East Coast book large groups of people into this area knowing that they will probably make a din? I am writing this as we speak on the 0900 Newcastle to Kings X and having to put up with a gaggle of about 10 middle aged women on a jolly to London who have already started on the booze at 0930 making a terrible screeching racket
And as usual on East Coast the guard (J Johnson on this service from the announcements) is nowhere to be seen, in fact out of the last 20 times travelling with them I have had my ticket checked just once on board - but thats another rant.
Can East Coast not change their booking policy so that groups are not allowed in the quiet coach when other seats are available?
I thought that if you wanted to reserve seats in the quiet coach, you had to specifically ask for them. Meaning, basically, that if the clerk didn't specify Coach B (on East Coast), it would never issue reservations for that coach.
I wouldn't mind so much if they ever played decent music!![]()
think they are immune from criticism.People who think that the music they prefer is in any way superior to the music someone else chooses to play. Pretentious twits.
So lets get this straight then,
Sinatra and Elvis were rubbish because they mimed (not always, of course, but no-one does) and didn't write any of the the songs they sang. Or is it just the music listened to by people younger and better looking than you that gets such analysis?
So lets get this straight then,
Sinatra and Elvis were rubbish because they mimed (not always, of course, but no-one does) and didn't write any of the the songs they sang. Or is it just the music listened to by people younger and better looking than you that gets such analysis?
As I said "pretentious twits" use musical snobbery. Music is ONLY what it means to the individual. I like my music, you like yours, the "chavs" (as they were referred to) like their's, and here's the rub; YOU ARE NOT RIGHT, THEY ARE NOT RIGHT AND NEITHER AM I. It is, after all, just people banging and blowing things to a certain tempo. Each to their own fella.
Perhaps you should realise that your music is rubbish to some people (just as I can accept this truiesm)
And a Dave Matthews Band fan thinks that music is only meaningful if performed just so? Perleaze!
I would imagine that each and every member of that band would tell you you were talking crap, the influences on their music being so varied its untrue.
I'm just guessing here - that you're not a musician then?
If so, you don't sound like any musician I've ever hung out with. You sure don't know anything about DMB. They have an eclectic background, but that's true of just about any real band - doesn't make any difference to how well they play. Carter Beaford is one of the finest drummers in the world - the difference is someone like that CAN play things that your average chav in the charts couldn't even pretend to play. Musical ability - that's one key thing I'm talking about here. Something that gets nowhere near enough respect these days.
The fact is that manufacture pop crap is MUSICALLY rubbish. I'm not saying people who listen to it are inferior (I often enjoy listening to it myself), but it's like my analogy with fast food - I don't respect it. McDonalds is rubbish food. Are you arguing with that? The skill is in writing a brief little hook that'll be repeated on radio for the kids to buy. Great - they're the ones who are making money from it and fair play to them. But it's all 4/4, phrased in groups of 8 - verse-chorus, verse-chorus, middle 8, verse end... all the same in Major keys with the now obligatory key change about 16 bars from the end. Now that's fine once in a while, but as a musician - I get bored of that all the time. It lacks imagination, creativity and apart from the occasional bit of (often computer adjusted) singing that's tricky, there's NO SKILL in playing it. It's like the art of being a decent, proper musician is squeezed out of popular music and into Jazz, classical and (don't laugh) metal. Some of the finest guitarist and drummers anywhere play in heavy metal bands. Marty Friedman, Dave Lombardo et al...
But don't patronise me - modern computer-written music is NOT the same as a group of musicians creating a song from themselves. Elvis? Again, you're showing your musical ineptitude. He was a singer. Hound dog? Blue suede shoes? Love me tender? All shook up.... I can go on, but if you check, you'll find out he didn't write ANY of them. Not even the bloody words. In fact in most cases, he covered them - they were written AND recorded by someone else before - someone who created the music people love, but the guy with the ego got the credit. He was one of the first to sing in the style he did - but I'm not taking that away from him - he was the success then just as some artists are now. I'm not arguing success here - I'm arguing MUSIC. ABBA get far more respect from me than Elvis for example - genius songwriting. Probably the best there has been since those 4 scousers... oh but don't get me started on Ringo. "Not even the best drummer in the Beatles".
Im tempted to dress up in my most chaviest clothing and have Classical music playing out loud next time im on public transport...![]()

4. Improvised jazz solos.
4. Improvised jazz solos.
5. And, (this was the point of my first post on this thread) People (note I don't use the term "chav" as a lazy insult) who play their music audibly in public places. ANY sort of music whether it be R&B (using the modern terminology, bet that annoys you too TGV?), Gregorian chants or atonal modern jazz. Only the other day, on a train between Leeds and Scarborough, I could clearly hear a well dressed businessman with his i-pod phone, repeated playing John Cage's 4'33''. Nearly drove me mad the selfish b****rd!
Improvisation is the core of real jazz.
2. People who reply to what they think they have read in internet posts, rather than what was actually written.
When I am eating a good apple I don't like the core then either.