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The "where is it" Thread.
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Location correct. Reson for problem and staff in Hi-Viz, wrong! No animals were harmed in the making of this photo... or people for that matter.
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That's as good as spot on. This was the train that caused the infamous Conington incident on one of the hottest days of 2005.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/cambridgeshire/4125312.stm
The article isnt quite correct, - the cables came down between Huntingdon and Abbots Ripton, not Peterborough but the outcome was the same. I watched it all unfold live. What happened was:
A down freight service hauled by a class 60 had a catastrophic motor failure just south of Huntingdon station on the fast line. The loco was locked solid and could not be hauled or moved under it's own power. The 66 you see in the photo was sent to retrieve the freight train while the failed 60 itself was attended to. All down traffic was routed on to the slow line through Huntingdon. That included the 91 + Mk4 set you see here. It was directly ahead of the rescue 66. It passed through the station at about 40mph to be routed back on to the fast line just North of the station. As it started the crossover the pan got caught in the wires (the OLE overlap span is also at the crossover) and because it's headspan over 4 tracks, the whole lot failed on all lines. This affected the GNER train at Connington a few miles up the track - which got stuck in a remote location with total power failure and no easy way of getting a loco to it (apparently a 365 was also stuck heading north which blocked any attempts at getting a thunderbird to it from the south, but as we know, 365's at least have windows that open).
Anyway, the 66 that was sent to help the 60 ended up being a thunderbird to the 91 set and pulled it back into Huntingdon station once they'd de-tangled the pantograph and subsequently removed it (see attached photo of 91 with pan removed some 2 hours later). I was fed the whole story in real time from a NR staff member who was happy to keep me informed (I was wearing my railway credentials at the time) as it all unfolded. By the time the GNER set was removed from Huntingdon it was dark (about 6 hours later), the freight train was still there at 11pm that night but by the next morning it had gone. Huntingdon station was pretty much chaos as northbound trains (once started later that night) used the southbound platform. There were passengers trying to get to Newcastle still at the station at 10pm! Crazy evening, but it was interesting now looking back at it.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/cambridgeshire/4125312.stm
The article isnt quite correct, - the cables came down between Huntingdon and Abbots Ripton, not Peterborough but the outcome was the same. I watched it all unfold live. What happened was:
A down freight service hauled by a class 60 had a catastrophic motor failure just south of Huntingdon station on the fast line. The loco was locked solid and could not be hauled or moved under it's own power. The 66 you see in the photo was sent to retrieve the freight train while the failed 60 itself was attended to. All down traffic was routed on to the slow line through Huntingdon. That included the 91 + Mk4 set you see here. It was directly ahead of the rescue 66. It passed through the station at about 40mph to be routed back on to the fast line just North of the station. As it started the crossover the pan got caught in the wires (the OLE overlap span is also at the crossover) and because it's headspan over 4 tracks, the whole lot failed on all lines. This affected the GNER train at Connington a few miles up the track - which got stuck in a remote location with total power failure and no easy way of getting a loco to it (apparently a 365 was also stuck heading north which blocked any attempts at getting a thunderbird to it from the south, but as we know, 365's at least have windows that open).
Anyway, the 66 that was sent to help the 60 ended up being a thunderbird to the 91 set and pulled it back into Huntingdon station once they'd de-tangled the pantograph and subsequently removed it (see attached photo of 91 with pan removed some 2 hours later). I was fed the whole story in real time from a NR staff member who was happy to keep me informed (I was wearing my railway credentials at the time) as it all unfolded. By the time the GNER set was removed from Huntingdon it was dark (about 6 hours later), the freight train was still there at 11pm that night but by the next morning it had gone. Huntingdon station was pretty much chaos as northbound trains (once started later that night) used the southbound platform. There were passengers trying to get to Newcastle still at the station at 10pm! Crazy evening, but it was interesting now looking back at it.
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Thurso.
I haven't been up there for about 30 years but a Scotrail unit and that roof is a dead giveaway.
Unless, of course, I'm wrong and its Wick!
I haven't been up there for about 30 years but a Scotrail unit and that roof is a dead giveaway.
Unless, of course, I'm wrong and its Wick!
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Wick!
Was definitely Thurso, farthest north on UK track. Probably made that one too easy. OK, your go.
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Ok folks, try this.
It's a really easy one - but only if you know where it is...
If no-one gets it in a couple of days I'll post another picture from some years before this one was taken that will give a big clue.
I'll be a bit busy for a day or two so you might have to wait a bit for congratulations - if you get it right!
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Ok folks, try this.
It's a really easy one - but only if you know where it is...
If no-one gets it in a couple of days I'll post another picture from some years before this one was taken that will give a big clue.
I'll be a bit busy for a day or two so you might have to wait a bit for congratulations - if you get it right!
Just a stab in the dark, but is it on the Lickey incline? I was thinking of your comment about another picture taken years before which would give a big clue.
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Nope!
I thought someone would be able to spot the identitiy of the train and work it out from there but maybe this one is too hard for you all.
Before I post the picture that will give the game away, here's another one taken shortly after, of the loco that had worked the train to a reversal point not far away. The photos date from the second half of 2005. You may find Six Bells will help!
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Well that's true of anything that someone knows - its not quite the same as "easy" which is the opposite of some hard studious work!
Anyway, I don't know the location but the topography could correspond with the W.Mids; Hereford Worcestershire or Gloucestershire, perhaps?.
Well I think that I've found the railtour, if its the one that I think, the 50 took the train to Bradford Interchange. So in that case, the photo must have been talken somewhere between there and Church Fenton (assuming that the 50 was stablewd at York before picking up the return leg there a coupld of days later). The countryside doesn't look right for the Leeds/Bradford area though, and I can't see where the photo was taken on Google Earth. I thought that I had found a possible location a mile or so east of New Pudsey, (with the roof of Asda in the distance) but there is a viaduct to the west of that location which is not in the photo. Also, I'm intreagued as to what your "give away" photo will show.
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Bedpan, you were so close! You've got the right train. All you need is the name of the place.
So, one more clue for you regarding apparently missing features; have a closer look at the second photo.
I'll post the 1966 photo tonight if I get home in time.
So, one more clue for you regarding apparently missing features; have a closer look at the second photo.
I'll post the 1966 photo tonight if I get home in time.
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I've been having another look at the photos and was wondering from the undergrowth on the left of the second picture if the trees are on the site of the disused chord to Bowling Junc on the Bradford - Halifax line branching off on the left, and Hammerton Street shed. I don't know the area so have no idea where the shed was actually situated.
I've had another look at Google Earth though (hope this is not cheating) and the first photo I am pretty sure was taken from the footbridge at the end of Grangefield Road, as the roofs of the buildings on the right of the picture match this location and you can also see the mobile phone mast on Google Earth (53o 48' 20.30"N, 1o 39'45.66"W) if you look closely (which I didn't yesterday!).
I've had another look at Google Earth though (hope this is not cheating) and the first photo I am pretty sure was taken from the footbridge at the end of Grangefield Road, as the roofs of the buildings on the right of the picture match this location and you can also see the mobile phone mast on Google Earth (53o 48' 20.30"N, 1o 39'45.66"W) if you look closely (which I didn't yesterday!).
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Give the man a prize!
You are spot on with the Grangefield Road footbridge which used to be a road bridge when I wer' a lad and the view towards Stanningley station looked a bit different.
Over to you...
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That was an excellent choice for the quiz, Blackfive! Have you thought of dsubmitting the photos to a mag for a "then and now" feature?
I was expecting the give away in the third picture to be a loco or suchlike specific to a particular area, rather than the location being written on the factory wall! When you know what it says, you can just about make out the writing on the first picture.
I was expecting the give away in the third picture to be a loco or suchlike specific to a particular area, rather than the location being written on the factory wall! When you know what it says, you can just about make out the writing on the first picture.
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From what I've seen, sending photos to mags isn't worth the hassle and anyway, my ego doesn't need the massage; I'm not an aspiring 'David Bailey' after all!
I might start a The "where was it" thread though to complement this one with extra points for anyone who can provide the 'now' photo...
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I'll post some clues as it could be anywhere I suppose.
1. It is in the Southern Hemisphere.
2. It's largest City is not it's capital.
3. They drive on the left.
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I'll post some clues as it could be anywhere I suppose.
1. It is in the Southern Hemisphere.
2. It's largest City is not it's capital.
3. They drive on the left.
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Is it South Africa and is that what is called ' Cape gauge '?
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Congratulations, yes it is New Zealand.
I was there in 2007 and this is at Te Kuiti on the North Island, about 70km S/ SW of Hamilton.
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